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Rover 400 water problem

Discussion in '400/45' started by barneydino, 24 March 2009.

  1. barneydino

    barneydino New member

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    Car has just broke down, water disappeared - had manifold gasket replaced just before this and garage said that should do it but it didn't. All the water in engine has disappeared again any suggestions??
     
  2. prevtec

    prevtec Pro Tuner

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    waterpump, or #!#!#!#!ed radiator, or head gasket

    these are the only way water can leak from a car,

    be more specific, how and where is the water losing from??
     
  3. MasterAuron

    MasterAuron Very Senior Member

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    A Leak? Coolant hose split or come off? Manifold gasket should have nothing to do with the water. How quickly has the water disappeared? Any water in the oil? Smoke from the exhaust? Try to be more specific.
     
  4. barneydino

    barneydino New member

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    Being more specific now..... just been told not leaking from anywhere but coming out of the expansion bottle when it gets hot ........loads of water on the floor now!!!!
     
  5. barneydino

    barneydino New member

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    now you mention it, there has been quite alot of smoke from the exhaust does this mean anything terrible
     
  6. prevtec

    prevtec Pro Tuner

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    usally head gasket, the over flow bottle can be checked as we speak

    take off the oil filer cap and see is there any white residue around it, if there is, its the head mate
     
  7. barneydino

    barneydino New member

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    ok, thanks for all the replies, but still not sure what the problem is - as to the manifold gasket, took it to a garage and they did something with the water under pressure and it poured out of what they said needed a manifold gasket but obviously must be something else going on as it is still losing water.
     
  8. MasterAuron

    MasterAuron Very Senior Member

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    As above. White smoke? It is steam and usually indicates water in the cylinders.
     
  9. barneydino

    barneydino New member

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    thanks prevtec but not any white around oil filler cap either am totally stumped.
     
  10. barneydino

    barneydino New member

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    hi masterauron what does that mean and yes it is white smoke
     
  11. prevtec

    prevtec Pro Tuner

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    its not the head then, the othwer thing now is to check is the water pump ok,

    just out of curiosity, will you check is the drain plug on the rad tightened??
     
  12. MasterAuron

    MasterAuron Very Senior Member

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    It means your car is burning water off in the cylinder, which is where the water is going. The white smoke is steam. Ask the garage to do a leak down test to confirm it is the headgasket.
     
  13. barneydino

    barneydino New member

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    Just checked again and oil filler cap has got coffee colour sludge is this the same thing
     
  14. barneydino

    barneydino New member

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    thanks all, looks like it's the head gasket from what you're all saying and that sounds pretty serious
     
  15. prevtec

    prevtec Pro Tuner

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    more or less, basically its water mixing with oil
    sorry man, its the head gasket, the whit smoke is what masterauron said
     
  16. MasterAuron

    MasterAuron Very Senior Member

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    Most likely. But what prevtec said is wrong anyway. You don't always get mayo if your headgasket goes, just depends which part of the gasket it is.
     
  17. prevtec

    prevtec Pro Tuner

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    tell me more????:D
     
  18. MasterAuron

    MasterAuron Very Senior Member

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    Not too serious unless it's a cracked head. Tis possible to change it yourself, difficulty depends on where the head is and your mechanical ability. You will have to send the head off to be skimmed though and possibly re-shim.
     
  19. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    If the head gasket has only just been changed you might just need to get the head bolts retorqued. A new gasket shouldn't leak so go back to the garage that fitted it. (Unless I have the wrong end of the stick and it wasn't the head gasket you had done.)
     
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