put turbo on 1y engine opinions please

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ibizz

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i already found ! not in this site for shure ...
i found it in caddy and brickwerk , with people that puts his hands in oil ... not put car in mecanic and say do this do that ... that very easy to do .. ani one with mooney can do that .. no glory in that ..
in this site "real" experience people dont know 1y engine ... manny known in europe and worlwide. here dont know ..
and dont believe that 1 block with 64 hp standart can output 270 hp ...
so how mutch experience is that ? factory specs experience ? and even with that specs dont help nothing ..
so i left a dino from a living proof that experience can come with changes and experiences... more than playing with factory torque machines....
more fun is see comercials cheap cars passing bye big torque monsters , than cost a fortune ... thats the real fun here .

impossible ?

manny videos on youtube from portuguese projects , passing bye ferrarys , porches etc etc

only think i learn here is that you guys dont even know 1 engine very known as 1y
that came in seat , vw like ibiza , cordoba , caddy , inca , golfs and manny others ... so what experience may i get from experience people like this ?

lay your hands in oil and see what fun it is , not spending loads of mooney in mecanics..
 
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turbonutter69

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i already found ! not in this site for shure ...
i found it in caddy and brickwerk , with people that puts his hands in oil ... not put car in mecanic and say do this do that ... that very easy to do .. ani one with mooney can do that .. no glory in that ..
in this site "real" experience people dont know 1y engine ... manny known in europe and worlwide. here dont know ..
and dont believe that 1 block with 64 hp standart can output 270 hp ...
so how mutch experience is that ? factory specs experience ? and even with that specs dont help nothing ..
so i left a dino from a living proof that experience can come with changes and experiences... more than playing with factory torque machines....
more fun is see comercials cheap cars passing bye big torque monsters , than cost a fortune ... thats the real fun here .

impossible ?

manny videos on youtube from portuguese projects , passing bye ferrarys , porches etc etc

only think i learn here is that you guys dont even know 1 engine very known as 1y
that came in seat , vw like ibiza , cordoba , caddy , inca , golfs and manny others ... so what experience may i get from experience people like this ?

lay your hands in oil and see what fun it is , not spending loads of mooney in mecanics..

You don't know a single thing about the people who use this site or there vehicles.
Please do some research before you try and slate the whole forum.
If you have the info you need then why are you here?
There will be someone here that has an answer for you but your not going to get one whilst your spitting your dummy out.
 

ibizz

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real experience people , talk about real facts !

would say , its impossible becouse compression ratio is too high or pistons in not coated etc etc . facts

tell me about facts and in real mecanic , not thats impossible or il bang , and cant say why il go bang ...
 

ibizz

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im not trying to dump my dummy out here .

and im not trying to slater the hole forum...

im trying to get specs changes between aaz and 1y engines.

but far as i know , no one even know 1 engines like that ... so how experience is that ?
i joint to this forum becouse i think i get any help from real experience people and open minded ... open mind i see in 2 or 3 posts that is out of question and same as experience help with specs and tunning .
called torque cars , i think hey may be theres same guys that real known mecanic and that engines and can point me out manny diferences in this two and may be some tunning tips and advice .

sorry if i look a rude guy
thats not the intention here
 

turbonutter69

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Like i've said already there will be someone that will be able to help you. You've just got to wait for them to see this thread.
You see we are a worldwide site so there is a wide range of knowledge floating about but you have to remember people do work and with being a worldwide site alot of people are in different time zones so some may even be in bed.
 

ibizz

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Do you actually know whats involved in turbocharging a naturally aspirated engine?

i think yes , but even if i dont know , no one here helps to point me out ....

and yes , that dyno that i left here is from a sdi , same block as mine only with elctronic pump , instead of cable pump like mine.
its 64 hp standart , now it as 270 and is running .

my block as natural aspirated , but is identical to aaz one that is td
in my block as crafted 1.9td ...
in view what changes in 2 is td as turbo kkk12 or kkk14 and lda in pump and mine doesnt ive turbo and lda .

what i as in here is if ani one knows about internal changes between them.

are you refer to forget pistons and rods ? coated ones ?

theres alot more beside that obvious stuff ...
 

ibizz

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i alraedy read that articule , and manny others ..

nothing new at that ..

thats aplys for big power gains

i only wont duplicate origin output of this engine


so from that articule 1 engine like mine cant output figures like 200 hp ? without spend a fortune ? is that ?

once again go see that dyno and tell me its impossible !
theres manny more examples here in pt

no worry , if i do it , and i can reach the figures i wont , without spending a fortune and still be a daily engine , il let you know .

but im in posicion to show you original old aspired engines , with turbo aded , running every days and touching figures like 150 , 200 and almost 300 like that sdi engine ..

so i think its more then what whe read
 

bigbadjoe

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If you labled your thread ''I would like to kill my car by putting a turbo on it'' there would be a lot more good replies. They would go along the lines of....

- Make sure your turbo manafold fits direct onto the exhaust, as a smooth outlet flow will help increase pressure from the other end, and give you more power.

- Fit a new fuel pump, walbro will do.

- Upgrade your cams to hangle the extra power

- Upgrade your pistons and rods (about £2000)

- Fit a rad, make sure you have space for this before hand, as bumper could stop the flow of air.

- Upgrade the rocker cover, anything less than £120 on a engine holding that much pressure after a turbo will not do.

ect ect.

But if you read the article, it explains all this. And the reason why people advised you not to, was because it costs £££££££. You have to be a proper lover of that car to spend so much for such little gain.

Like I said, I don't know too much about cars, but along with meeting new people and making mates, there are people on this site that have spent 30-40 years in the trade. I mean for crying out loud, there is a bloke here that is an expert on oil. Any question anwered. These are the people you need to keep on your good side, as they can be extreemly usefull and save you ££££££.

A sorry does not hurt.
 

ibizz

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hey bigbadjoe

did you see the post with the dyno from 1 sdi engine with 64 hp standart

gives 270 hp ?

its steal running and play with bigest engines

before i show it , some people says its impossible , so that dyno test proves its possible
and not spending a fortune ...

for shure a original td or tdi can handle more power than a old d engine , thats for shure .
but the real fun here is doing what you guys think impossible ...

that why in tdi , pt is king
some errors , but you try , until you get something that every one thinks its impossible

thats the real magic .

and i freq 1 forum caled ibiza.pt in there are manny proves that in some stuff manny people are wrong , and its possible turboing some d , and im talking about a specific engine , that as oil jects for cooling pistons and rods and share almost everithing with original td aaz . even if you see references of heads , pistons and other stuf it gives the same for that 2 engines ...

open mind a litle does not hurt too
 

Prince

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It's not just about reaching a desired power output, it's also about making sure the car stays reliable. You can do things as cheap as you like, but you'll be doing it more than once.
 

ibizz

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lets say 500 euros turbo
big ic 100 euros
re map free since he is chiptunner
worked pump 100 : 150 euros
worked inox ic pyping lets say 100 euros
worked admission with race filter 100 euros
port and polish free
worked and direct exaust line 150 euros
special clutch reforce 250 euros
and lets say more 200 for litle things that no one reminds

i think im not forgeting anithing

is that the fortune that you are talking ?
as far as reliability , is reliable as he can travel portugal from norte to south and almost full gas , and still doing some time attack proves and 500 meters with pros ...
 

ibizz

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not listening what ?

that is impossible put turbo in a block that as crafted 1.9td and is the same as original td aaz ? without spending a fortune ?

is that it ?
 

Prince

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You seem not to have read anyones replies. You are going to do it despite the advice given to you so why keep asking?

Nothing is impossible but unless you are an expert in turbo charging then it will not come cheaply. Doing it cheap will mean doing it again. You have been warned.
 

ibizz

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i will do it becouse , ive already see this same engine with turbo , and handlling almost 2 bars of turbo pression .
i only put 1 bar
ive read all replies , but i think 1 you dont know the engine that i us talking about
so anithing you say without knowing the engine is almost invalid ..
2 see that here people stay a bit rude when see that 1 cheap car like ibiza can put out more output power than some of caled super cars that some members ive... that cost a fortune ...
i admit that got to hurt stay in back of cheap car with a supermachines... i already see manny of then ..

as fare as expert in turbocharging ?
why you need to be turbo charging expert ?
to hibrid turbos ?
to change colectores ?

for what ?

in brickwerks and cady forum

that guys know the engine , do it things like new cill , joint 2 engines to make new one
1.9 with both end of 1.6 , put some tdi engine working mecanicaly , without electric stuf
control geometry of 1 turbo mecanicaly , you know do that ?
or some experience people here do that ?
that guys pic in program like auto data , vag cat and compare references from pistons and rods from both engines from example .
and they can say you can and why , or you dont and why , not based in 1 articule , but in real experience , that come by open alott of this engines td version and aspirated

and i not thinking stik in 1 turbo a put full gas

i think in something like doing a custum dowpype to lower egts , large size exaust
oil cooler , since turbo generates more heat
ic
and other things ....
like that
 

turbonutter69

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Listen mate you asked for advice which more than one person has gave you. But the thing is you just keep coming back with the same old thing. "I know someone who's done this"

If you've seen it done before and you know whats involved then why are you here?
This thread is very close to being deleted because IMO it's a pointless thread.
You know what you want to do and you apparently know how to do it. So why don't you just go and do it instead of trying to argue with everyone that gives you advice?
 

obi_waynne

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I suggest that Ibizz starts a project thread in the gallery forum and keeps us posted with his results. I will be interested to see how it goes for you.

I don't think anyone on here has been rude or predjudiced about your cars engine. We see a lot of people try things like this on their car only to watch the engine fail a little bit further down the line.

You do get what you pay for so doing things on the cheap is often a false economy.

I wish you well in your project in doubling the power of your 1.9 diesel engine from around 70bhp, this is what the spirit of car tuning is all about.

However in my experience standard internals on a diesel engine can only be pushed about 50% higher before problems start appearing a year or so later on.

Your 1Y engine is pretty detuned and underpowered so you might actually get away with it.

A friend of mine put a Turbo on his Civic and it took him about 50 hours of work and cost about £4000 in parts to get it to work properly. He only budgeted initially for £1500 but this is an extreme example as the car wasn't a turbo to start with.

You must get the fuelling, timing and wastegate control spot on - there is no room for errors when you are pushing a car that much. You will also need to upgrade the oil you use and I'm pretty sure the gearing will be too low for the new engine which is good for acceleration but makes it hard to live with in traffic as you will be constantly changing gear.

I hope this helps.
 

ibizz

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Listen mate you asked for advice which more than one person has gave you. But the thing is you just keep coming back with the same old thing. "I know someone who's done this"

If you've seen it done before and you know whats involved then why are you here?
This thread is very close to being deleted because IMO it's a pointless thread.
You know what you want to do and you apparently know how to do it. So why don't you just go and do it instead of trying to argue with everyone that gives you advice?
becouse i think its more outhere than what i see , know and tell me.

if you wont to delete tread go ahead , like you said its a pointless thread , with pointless help so far .. of course 1 preparacion with the best high priced stuff , was beter than a low budget project ...
i think no one needs help to know that ... and if you put in hands in a good mecanic and spend another fortune , more beter it is ...

but i like to do it my self , with my hands
doing something thats out of factory standart .

forget it, if the moderators that pass by here most of time and see this every day and dont give me concrete facts , why it il not work .. and some dont even know the egine , but already says is impossible...
what kind of usefull help can i take from that ?
 

ibizz

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I suggest that Ibizz starts a project thread in the gallery forum and keeps us posted with his results. I will be interested to see how it goes for you.

I don't think anyone on here has been rude or predjudiced about your cars engine. We see a lot of people try things like this on their car only to watch the engine fail a little bit further down the line.

You do get what you pay for so doing things on the cheap is often a false economy.

I wish you well in your project in doubling the power of your 1.9 diesel engine from around 70bhp, this is what the spirit of car tuning is all about.

However in my experience standard internals on a diesel engine can only be pushed about 50% higher before problems start appearing a year or so later on.

Your 1Y engine is pretty detuned and underpowered so you might actually get away with it.

A friend of mine put a Turbo on his Civic and it took him about 50 hours of work and cost about £4000 in parts to get it to work properly. He only budgeted initially for £1500 but this is an extreme example as the car wasn't a turbo to start with.

You must get the fuelling, timing and wastegate control spot on - there is no room for errors when you are pushing a car that much. You will also need to upgrade the oil you use and I'm pretty sure the gearing will be too low for the new engine which is good for acceleration but makes it hard to live with in traffic as you will be constantly changing gear.

I hope this helps.


this is an aswer , and help
i can take something from aswer of waynne .

now by the aswer impossible , i can take nothing . only feedback of closed mind .

the gear box , i know it il be short .
thats good im not looking for speed
but if needed il change by gtd 1.6 one that is plug and play in my engine .
same as gtd pump with lda .
il try to post a pic of 1 engine like mine , with subaru turbo on and a big hole in block becouse forgot to torque something ...
i know you guys il say , that what apens... but that engine as worked in extreme , with more than 2 bars of turbo pression ,without ic , oil cooler etc.

but at least some one here il know whats a 1y engine is ...


sorry wayne

but i hate when people says its impossible , when dont even know what engine it is... just becouse never see it before ..

if you dont try ... you il never know
standart factory stuff , every one know

do things that already are done , no fun in that .
fun is to prove its possible , what almost everyone says is impossible ..
like that sdi one in dyno , even mecanics says its impossible , when they see the numbers , start thinking of it ... and what they think its impossible , are playing with very very very high budget projects
 

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To say the help and advice given to you so far is pointless is actually offensive to all the people on this forum who make it as great as it is. This thread will now be locked.

I think the best way forward for you is to follow waynne's advice from above. Start a 'Work In Progess' (WIP) thread in the gallery section and prove us all wrong. Good luck to you.
 
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