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Discussion in '205/206/207/208 forums' started by Evanditchburn21, 9 March 2013.

  1. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    What are the best upgrades on the cheap I can do to my pug 206 1.1 to get a bit more power?
     
  2. MasterAuron

    MasterAuron Very Senior Member

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    From:
    379bhp 359lbft
    Car:
    Mk1 Focus RS
    Power? Not a lot. Cheapest way to accelerate faster with a 1.1 NA engine is to push it. Second cheapest is to lighten it by removing seats, spare wheel etc etc. A well thought out induction kit may net you a couple of horsepower and can probably be constructed for around £40.
     
  3. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    I have an induction kit fitted already, but it sitting right behind the radiator so it's not really feeding any cold air, do you think that could prevent a bit of power?
     
  4. MasterAuron

    MasterAuron Very Senior Member

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    From:
    379bhp 359lbft
    Car:
    Mk1 Focus RS
    Yes it's highly possible it could be loosing you power and torque over standard. I would pipe it to lower down and/or feed cold air to it.

    Depending on the cars current mechanical condition a good service can make a hell of a difference too.
     
  5. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    Yeah where they air box used to be it connected to something at the bottom of the engine bay I suppose I could put a bit or pipe or possibly fit the air box back on and sit the cone into the air box. It does need a good service I think and I guess new spark plug could help maybe? Thanks mate!
     
  6. MasterAuron

    MasterAuron Very Senior Member

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    From:
    379bhp 359lbft
    Car:
    Mk1 Focus RS
    If the old ones are past their best then certainly. Let us know how you get on :D
     
  7. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    Il get them out tomorrow and have a look at them lol. Will do mate! Thanks for your helpppp!!!
     
  8. old-git

    old-git Moderator

    Messages:
    9,182
    From:
    Essex
    Car:
    Elan & Robin Hood
    Only one way to get a resonable increase in power from a small engine -
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    Nitrous.
     
  9. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    Was genuinely looking at that but il probably just blow my engine lol
     
  10. old-git

    old-git Moderator

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    From:
    Essex
    Car:
    Elan & Robin Hood
    NO IT WON'T if you keep the power increase to a safe level. Engines only blow because people don't know what the hell they are doing and get greedy.

    Any excess power will blow your engine, regardless as to how it is produced.

    Talk to the likes of Wizard of Nos with regard to how much nitrous your engine can SAFELY handle.

    The beauty of nitrous is your engine will still let you pootle around with good fuel economy but with the option of extra power at the touch of a button.

    The kick even a small injection of nitrous gives is like no other form of tuning as it is instant. You get the power where you need it, not at the top of the rev range 'normal' tuning of a N/A engine relies on.
     
    Last edited: 9 March 2013
  11. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    But nos is really only for short bursts isn't it. I just want like more power for every day driving. I know everyone says to just buy a faster car but I'd rather keep what I have and do what I can to it to increase power etc
     
  12. old-git

    old-git Moderator

    Messages:
    9,182
    From:
    Essex
    Car:
    Elan & Robin Hood
    You won't get a satisfactory power increase from a 1.1 engine using traditional tuning methods, period. The engine just can't suck in enough air.

    Nitrous force feeds the engine extra oxygen so more fuel can be burnt. It is simply chemical supercharging.
     
  13. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

    Messages:
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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    So basically there is nothing I can really do apart from lowering it, nice rims, and a big exhaust haha
     
  14. old-git

    old-git Moderator

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    9,182
    From:
    Essex
    Car:
    Elan & Robin Hood
    Well, that is a pretty good way to make it even slower :)
     
  15. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    Lmao as you can tell I don't really know what I'm doing hence why I'm trying to ask for advice
     
  16. old-git

    old-git Moderator

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    From:
    Essex
    Car:
    Elan & Robin Hood
    A big exhaust will slow the gasses which will increase back pressure and reduce the scavaging effect. This will restrict the engines capacity to draw in air and fuel so decreasing power output.

    On a small engine exhaust size is critical and manufacturers have got it pretty much right.

    If the new wheels and tyres weigh more than the originals this will also reduce the car's performance.

    You can probably get away with a 20-25mm drop without affecting the suspension and steering geometry too much.
     
  17. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    Thanks for your help mate il keep that in mind!
     
  18. stubydoo

    stubydoo Full member

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    From:
    hull, uk
    Car:
    standard almera 1.5
    hey does this apply to a 1.5? or is that big enough to work on? It is a 16v...
     
  19. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

    Messages:
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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    You on about nitrous?
     
  20. stubydoo

    stubydoo Full member

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    From:
    hull, uk
    Car:
    standard almera 1.5
    No, more general tuning, intake kit, exhaust etc and would you consider 1.5 too small to bother with?
     
  21. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    What car do you have?
     
  22. stubydoo

    stubydoo Full member

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    From:
    hull, uk
    Car:
    standard almera 1.5
    Nissan almera 2001. Looks like the consensus is to save my money.
     
  23. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    My opinion it's up to you what you want to do to your car people say that there's no point in doing things to your car but if you want to you do it. If its a diesel ten you can get it remapped and decat it and get a sports cat with full straight through pipe, decent indication kit and possible turbo it if you can afford it that's where the main power comes from I think. But it's all down you to be honest mate!
     
  24. stubydoo

    stubydoo Full member

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    From:
    hull, uk
    Car:
    standard almera 1.5
    totally agree with that but my plan was to keep it looking standard but go for power, so no point really, nitrous feels like a cheat button to me.(just my opinipn obvs)
     
  25. Evanditchburn21

    Evanditchburn21 Wrench Pro

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    From:
    Stockton-on-tees
    Car:
    Peugeot 206 1.1
    Well then just go for the induction kit and turbo and remap it. That's all under the bonnet. The only things you could Change on the outside is wheels as and exhaust but if you're wanting it totally standard on the outside don't bother getting wheels and an exhaust
     
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