That seems really unfair.
took me 3 attempts to pass my test waynne, failed my 1st for the incident above, second one for going too slow, 30 in a 40, and passed on my 3rd.
had the same examiner 3 times.
If no signs or lamp columns and road is single carriageway - 60mph (national speed limit for this type of road)
If no signs and dual carriageway - 70mph (national speed limit for this type of road)
No signs but a series of lamp columns (3 or more spaced no further than 186m apart) then limit is 30mph, even on a dual carriageway. Lamps do not have to be illuminated, even at night.
Any questions?
basically if the road looks dangerous and there is no lights u can do 60mph, if the road looks safe with lights do 30mph. who makes up these laws
I think it would be a good idea to mount 30mph repeater signs on the lighting poles. This shouldn't cost too much because the lighting poles are already there for the signs to be mounted upon. Would also require minor change in legislation. Yet strangely 20mph limits are posted yet they have to be self-enforcing.
The street light spacing in my opinion is not adequate, especially if it's a London Red Route and the opportunity to park the car and get out the tape measure to check the light spacing is not available. Then again, how many of us have ever managed to get anywhere near 30mph on one of those?
If you were to mount repeaters on lamp columns (which are repeaters in themselves), you would need to install termination signs and issue a traffic regulation order.
The cost of doing this (ignoring the maintenance of signs) on every estate road in the country would bankrupt the County Councils.
With only one repeater missing the TRO becomes unenforcable so obtaining a speeding conviction becomes a nightmare. Very few lamp columns get nicked so the existing system is cheap, easy to maintain/enforce and all drivers should understand it. If not, they should not be driving.
Very few lighting systems are spaced as far apart as 186m so there is no real need to measure them - Unless you get nicked for speeding
It's interesting that the reference to street light distance with respect to speed has been removed from The Highway Code. Now it's simply street lighting.
it would be national speed limitIt's interesting that the reference to street light distance with respect to speed has been removed from The Highway Code. Now it's simply street lighting.
However, as far as I know, if there is no street lighting and no repeater signs there is in fact no limit on the road.
no i meant a gate where there is signs on both sides of the roads. it was a foreman that works for the council that was telling me as a mate had been done for going through a no entry sign at night where both lamps had blown- council knew but hadn't fixed them - and so they couldn't be seen well enough. it was at that point he pointed out one entry to the town you could continue at 60mph for another 1/2mile due to a 30 sign having been knocked down and no street lights
youve got the idea with the gate (30) (30).
yes he did have his lights on. he ended up going the wrong way at the time it had not long changed
As the entry to the town there are no lights and you dont need repeater signs for 30 within the town. as for no street lights dunno but as theres nothing out there other than a farm so i cant see the point for the 30mph being there. this has also changed 30 now starts just before the houses however there are now speed bumps and chicanes