saab 95 saloon 3.0l tid

[gingerbrother]

just been offered one of these very cheap.i know next to nothing about saabs so was wondering if anyone can tell me if the 3.0l turbo diesel is any good.
will a remap etc give good power gains or would i be wasting my time?

 

[T9 man]

Not too many of these about which is why they are cheap. They are a good car but demand love and money!

 

[HDi fun]

The later 1.9 TiD four cylinder units are generally considered more responsive to remapping.

 

[T9 man]

The later 1.9 TiD four cylinder units are generally considered more responsive to remapping.

Agreed HDi, MapTun do a kit for this very animal, have a look on here:

http://www.maptun.com/tuningIndex.php

 

[Yugguy]

Iirc the gm v6 is a detunded version of the bmw 3 litre diesel of the same era and is a strong engine but underpowered for its size.

 

[T9 man]

^^ Now I did not know that! Thanks for that Yugguy

 

[HDi fun]

Iirc the gm v6 is a detunded version of the bmw 3 litre diesel of the same era and is a strong engine but underpowered for its size.

It's not a BMW engine - BMW has not yet made a V6 diesel.

It's a GM/Vauxhall engine.

 

[geraint13]

Yip, the 3 litre is a straight 6, not v6.

 

[geraint13]

Gm/vauxhall used Bmw's Tds engine iirc.

 

[Yugguy]

And it was 20 or 30 horses less than the bmw version.

 

[HDi fun]

Gm/vauxhall used Bmw's Tds engine iirc.

They did indeed use the engine. In BMW tune it was best part of 150bhp, I think the GM application was 'capped' at about 112. Still driveable though and much much nicer than GM's 2.1 DTi as used in the Omega.

 

[Yugguy]

Must be possible to release those horses shurely?

 

[HDi fun]

Must be possible to release those horses shurely?

Not sure how different the engines were mechanically. I know the 3 series 325TD was sans intercooleur and as such was worth 113bhp.

Perhaps that's the fundamental mechanical difference?

These were pre-common rail engines remember so ECU tuning is not going to release that much extra shove.

 

[geraint13]

A remap on the tds released an extra 30 horses according to Celtic.
When browsing flea bay they always advertised the engines that they'd fit, omegas, disco's and beamers, and some rovers iirc. Good solid engines.

 

[HDi fun]

It's probably the best indirect injected diesel engine out there. Merc's 300TD was rough in comparison

 

[geraint13]

Agreed Paul