hid kit

pgarner

TC ModFather
Points
417
From
Lockerbie, SW Scotland
Car
Octy smoke machine
please be aware that HID conversion kits are unlawful

if your still after a set then http://www.hids4u.co.uk/ are possible the most well respected suppliers

but even they say

http://www.hids4u.co.uk/terms.html
Technical Information for HID Conversion Kits

Please remember that it is your responsibility to ensure that the items purchased are suitable for your vehicle make/model and that the use of said items complies with all applicable laws in your Country. In the UK, fitting an aftermarket HID kit is not technically road legal as you are replacing a halogen bulb with an HID bulb, because of this the HID bulb cannot be E marked, which is a requirement for it to be road legal. Therefore our HID kits are sold for off-road use only.

All technical information provided by HIDS4U LTD is given in good faith only and can not be taken as fact. HIDS4U LTD will not be held responsible for any damage caused to your vehicle from the use of any product purchased. If in doubt consult a qualified auto electrician or your vehicles’ authorised main dealer. This does not affect your statutory rights as a consumer.
 

falcon7

Wrench Pro
Points
23
From
Devon
Car
Seat Altea 1.9TDI
wanted 6k or 8k hid kit for vauxhall vectra.
Strange that they are illegal.
I fitted an HID kit but one of the bulbs wasn't fitted correctly so the headlamp setting was way out when it went for it's MOT.
The tester fixed it and set it up and it passed the MOT
 

Yugguy

Torque King
Points
507
From
Rugby (expat Preston lad)
Car
Merc C220Cdi Elegan
It is a gray area. Aftermarket hids will not fail not as long as beam pattern etc is correct.

Dot state though that it is their view that they are illegal. I think it's a risk going for very blue hids, but 35w OEM 4300 or 5k you'd be fine.
 

falcon7

Wrench Pro
Points
23
From
Devon
Car
Seat Altea 1.9TDI
It is a gray area. Aftermarket hids will not fail not as long as beam pattern etc is correct.

Dot state though that it is their view that they are illegal. I think it's a risk going for very blue hids, but 35w OEM 4300 or 5k you'd be fine.
I went for the 5K version but it was 50 ? watts. The converters on them keep blowing up, probably because of the wattage, or because I was using the el-cheapo versions from ebay.
 

obi_waynne

Administrator
Staff member
Moderator
Points
1,137
From
Deal, Kent UK
Car
A3 1.4 TFSI 150 COD
Strange that they are illegal.
I fitted an HID kit but one of the bulbs wasn't fitted correctly so the headlamp setting was way out when it went for it's MOT.
The tester fixed it and set it up and it passed the MOT
At the time of writing up on HID kits in the UK you need headlight washers, self levelling lights and the correct beam pattern. Most kits do not offer this so an MOT tester who is not that up on the rules might let it slide, those that know the book well should technically fail it.
 

Yugguy

Torque King
Points
507
From
Rugby (expat Preston lad)
Car
Merc C220Cdi Elegan
Below are excerpts from the MOT tester document.

Information:
Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp self levelling system.

Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given.


Method of Inspection
Where HID or LED dipped beam headlamps are fitted, switch on the headlamps and check the operation of any headlamp levelling and cleaning devices fitted


Reason for rejection:
A headlamp levelling or cleaning device inoperative or otherwise obviously defective.


So, washing/levelling MAY be fitted, and if so they must work. So from an MOT perspective alone HIDs without these will not fail as long as general alignment and pattern etc. is correct.

However, a car with hids driven in Europe must be E-certified, and to do this it MUST have levelling/washing systems. So from a DOT legal standpoint aftermarket hids with no levelling/washing are illegal.

But, like any law, it needs someone to enforce it. If you have an aftermarket system that is close to the look of an oem then you would need the police to a) notice this and b) be bothered to do something about it. They would also have to prove that your install was dangerous. These days they dont even care about incorrectly-spaced numberplates.

I am NOT advocating breaking the law in any way, but I don't see a properly installed aftermarket OEM-like kit as being a bad thing.
I do see badly-installed hid kits, especially into none-projector lenses, that are dazzling and yep, I want them off the roads.
 

falcon7

Wrench Pro
Points
23
From
Devon
Car
Seat Altea 1.9TDI
There seems to be a problem with some of the after-market HID kits in that the power converter fails.
t seems to me that on the desire to make them smaller, they have ignored the basic requirements for cooling, ie there is insufficient surface area to dissipate the heat generated. Not only that but the cases are often made of polished aluminium so that cooling by radiation is significantly reduced.
I have no experience of OEM installations but it would be interesting to know whether they are prone to early failure.
 
Top