cheers waynne ,as they say plan to suceed or fail to plan ,its a project that could run a lot of loot and still only have an average car, I like to leave the body as standard but have horses hidden under the hood, so when those lights go green its the back of the car there chasing,I have 205 gti 1.6 and have left bms and others wondering what the hell is that old bucket,including the local cop, thanks for advice waiting to fet qutes on a rebuilt engine as there looking up to 300 hundred for one out of the breakers and who knows could be as bad as the one thats in it.:grin: