adding a turbo to my 2002 clio 1.5 DCi

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Hey im new to the whole modding of cars thing but i have an 1.5 DCi and was thinking of ways to get more power from it, i am a student so my budget is limited, would it be worth the hassle of fitting a turbo to the engine as it is or would it save time and money fitting an engine with a pre-fitted turbo? or even just getting it re-mapped, and could anyone suggest a decent place for getting a car re-mapped? thanks very much
 
@ jarrus, i thought it did but wouldnt the engine say DTi instead? plus i dont hear a turbo when accelerating to high revs, and what u mean move the thread somewhere else?
 
im pretty sure it will have a turbo - does it feel like it moves at all when you put the foot down ? non turbo diesels are increadibly slow . that and the base 1.5 is something like 70bhp and 120ftlb so it will have a turbo.
 
It is definitely turbocharged. Absolutely definitely.

The dTi engines are the earlier Renault diesels which do not use the common rail injection that the dCi ones use. Apart from VAG, most makers now do not use the letter 'T' in diesel engine model designations simply because there are very very few non-turbo diesel cars around now.

You won't hear it necessarily, the installations are very linear and boost rises from very very low rpm indeed. There's no on/off point.

However, if your car feels slow then the turbo is not working, but in this case you will have yellow or red warning lights showing in the instrument cluster to denote an emissions problem.

A remap will set it alight if you want more shove (and you'll get it, by the bucket load, trust me). This, of course, depends upon it working properly in the first place.
 
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@pgarner yeah it does move pretty fast when i put my foot down but i just felt like it wasnt the speed it should be response wise, cuz my mate can beat me all over the place in a 1.2 corsa c, even its top speed is better

@HDi fun thanks very much for that info, haha u know more about my car than i do, admitedly im not much of a car expert but im trying to get my head round it all now, ive contacted a place about a remap and am considering going for it, it seems easier than putting a new turbo on it, but would you suggest anyway i could make it faster in the mean time? like cleaning the engine or something?
 
If your mate flattening is flattening you with a 1.2 Corsa then your car is not working properly.

There are any number of things which could be contributing to this problem. Cleaning, as you say, perhaps of the MAF sensor, and replacing the air filter element are places to start.

But I would get the car ASAP to a garage with diagnostic equipment and see what fault(s) are present. It's cheaper than guessing and getting stuff replaced randomly.

There is no point in getting the engine map changed when things are not working properly. Most tuners won't get involved until basic problems are fixed.

Even in 63bhp tune the 1.5dCi engine gives a very good account of itself. It's far more muscular than the lowly bhp figure would have us believe.
 
pgarner said:
im pretty sure it will have a turbo - does it feel like it moves at all when you put the foot down ? non turbo diesels are increadibly slow . that and the base 1.5 is something like 70bhp and 120ftlb so it will have a turbo.
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Very close pg.
Been having a quick read the Clio is 64bhp @ 4000rpm and 118ft/lb @ 2000rpm with a whopping top speed of 99mph.
The 1.2 petrol in the Corsa c has 73bhp @ 5600rpm and 81ft/lb @ 4000rpm and another whopping top speed of 106mph.
The Corsa does 0-62 quicker as well.;)
Oh and the Corsa is heavier too.
 
It's that torque figure that is important here. The dCi Renault is offering half as much again and at half the revs when compared to the 1.2 Corsa in question.

That should be more than adequate to outrun it with ease.

I still think that the car is not working totally correctly.
 
HDi fun said:
It's that torque figure that is important here. The dCi Renault is offering half as much again and at half the revs when compared to the 1.2 Corsa in question.

That should be more than adequate to outrun it with ease.

I still think that the car is not working totally correctly.
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Regardless of what the torque is the Corsa is faster to 62.
The 1.2 Corsa's are very revvy.
 
turbonutter69 said:
Regardless of what the torque is the Corsa is faster to 62.
The 1.2 Corsa's are very revvy.
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No one's mentioned the 0-62mph benchmark yet. Apart from you that is.

Acceleration doesn't have to start from a standstill.

A Clio dCi 1.5 will easily deliver stronger performance that a 1.2 Corsa.

Provided, of course, that it's working correctly.
 
turbonutter69 said:
Very close pg.
Been having a quick read the Clio is 64bhp @ 4000rpm and 118ft/lb @ 2000rpm with a whopping top speed of 99mph.
The 1.2 petrol in the Corsa c has 73bhp @ 5600rpm and 81ft/lb @ 4000rpm and another whopping top speed of 106mph.
The Corsa does 0-62 quicker as well.;)
Oh and the Corsa is heavier too.
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again im not an expert on cars but how is the corsa heavier? its like half the size, but seriously its 0-60 time may be better but u would think having a turbo would make my car out strip it after a the 1st 10 or 20 yards
 
HDi fun said:
No one's mentioned the 0-62mph benchmark yet. Apart from you that is.

Acceleration doesn't have to start from a standstill.

A Clio dCi 1.5 will easily deliver stronger performance that a 1.2 Corsa.

Provided, of course, that it's working correctly.
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I'm just stating the obvious. The Corsa is the faster car.

rap220 said:
again im not an expert on cars but how is the corsa heavier? its like half the size, but seriously its 0-60 time may be better but u would think having a turbo would make my car out strip it after a the 1st 10 or 20 yards
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If you ask me buddy it will be down to gear ratio's. The Corsa's are nippy in first and second.
 
@turbonutter69, true and id have said also cuz its a petrol off the line it will hav the advantage, and ahh thanks for the MAF thing
 
rap220 said:
again im not an expert on cars but how is the corsa heavier? its like half the size, but seriously its 0-60 time may be better but u would think having a turbo would make my car out strip it after a the 1st 10 or 20 yards
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Your car already has a turbo and you need to get the whole car on a diagnostic rig to determine what's happening.

Which dCi is yours - 63, 82 or 100bhp.
 
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78 bhp @4000 rpm and 138 ftlb @2000 rpm on a 2002 clio 1.5 dci

105bhp and 212 lbft are avaliable from a remap

but seriously you should be beating your mates corsa
 
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jarrus said:
78 bhp @4000 rpm and 138 ftlb @2000 rpm on a 2002 clio 1.5 dci

105bhp and 212 lbft are avaliable from a remap

but seriously you should be beating your mates corsa
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Yes, if the turbo is working. If not then not a chance. Get the diagnostics codes read ASAP.

@Jarrus: French cars aren't all flimsy. The later 406 models especially are very solid indeed. The downside is that they are heavy. Consider that I walked away from a 60mph frontal in June 2009.

306 models are pretty sound as well.

The 205, 309, 405 and some other earlier cars are just as you say, a bit flimsy.

Renault's Laguna II was the first car to achieve a full 5* EuroNCAP rating. And I'd rather crash a Clio than crash a Corsa.
 
thanks for all the comments and i will try find somewhere that has the equipment to see if there is anything wrong
 
rap220 said:
thanks for all the comments and i will try find somewhere that has the equipment to see if there is anything wrong
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Renault dealer is the obvious choice, but being a 2002 car it will have an OBDII port which makes things simpler.

The problem is that although the OBDII interface is common to all models the makers still use some model unique reference codes in addition to the standard ones which go for all cars.

Phone around a few local specialists and ask whether they can deal with it for you,

Are there any warning lights showing when the car is being driven?
 
Have you physically checked your oil? It sounds like it's too low, that light means the oil pressure is too low and not enough is getting pickup by the oil pump from the sump,

YOU NEED TO CHECK IT ASAP BECAUSE YOU COULD BE DESTORYING YOUR ENGINE!!!

I really can't stress it enough, would you take a shower with no water? Same thing really.....
 
I don't think he's referring to the oil pressure light.

I think he's referring to the ones that light up to show the oil level when the key is turned on but before the engine is started.

It's an electronic dipstick which saves having to open the bonnet to check it. My 406 had this feature. So did the Laguna, both would mis-report the oil level if the car was parked on a slope.
 
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