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I noticed there was no TVR section so thought I'd ask this here.

so as you know I was going to mod my car up, but then the other day my eye fell upon a TVR Cerbera for 8.5 grand and I think I fell in love Lol Seems to not be too bad on insurance, still not sure if I want to spend 8.5 grand though as I was supposed to be saving for round the world backpacking.

anyway, I wanted to ask about the car, from what I've read it's as amazeing as I thought it was, but I've also been told they have a tendency to fall apart or brake down a lot, running up high maintenance costs.

Is that true? Pluss anything else about the car I should be aware of to help me decide weather to buy it?
 
TVR's are very high maintenance so if your going to buy one make sure you take this into account. It might seem cheap for a TVR but it's the service cost and break downs that you have to worry about.
 
They should be reliable if you service them well and drive it with a little respect.

The superlight bodies and big engines mean an awesome power to weight ratio. It's probably worth getting one for 6 months or so and then selling it on.
 
Yes they do fall apart if you so much as look at them funny. Very surprised you've got a reasonable quote at 20 for that...how much if you don't mind me asking? They're not exactly good on petrol either so make sure you consider that if it's your only car.
 
It's just had an engine rebuild by a specialist company so I'm assumeing thats gonna make it as reliable as a factory new model. But from what everyones saying thats not at all reliable Lol I was planning on really looking after it, but it's how much looking after it is gonna cost thats the issue, I was allready unsure about spending 8.5 grand. Think I might have to give this one a miss for now :-(

and MA It's 1825 for me, not like under a grand I know but reasonable considering the car! and I have a write off to my name so you'd probably get it a lot cheaper
 
If was gonna be used as a weekend car then i'd say go for it but if it is an everyday car then I'd say leave it be buddy. The running costs alone are through the roof. And with petrol going up all the time you'll be spending loads on that as well.
 
there was a guy in my town, he lives in UK, so he brought here a TVR, dunno what model exactly, but as i could see, they have exhausts just like the motorbikes, or similar.
however, it didn't impress me, TVR has unique design, but why are those cars on a bad name always?
 
there was a guy in my town, he lives in UK, so he brought here a TVR, dunno what model exactly, but as i could see, they have exhausts just like the motorbikes, or similar.
however, it didn't impress me, TVR has unique design, but why are those cars on a bad name always?

Sounds like a Tamora to me....Awesome cars.
 
Didn't TVR have a thing for using the Buick small block V8? It's the same aluminium engine Rover used in the SD1. Range Rover still uses this lump but in 4.6 litre capacity.
 
Hand-made by a man in a shed in Blackpool for £18.64 and a bucket of fibreglass. Says it all really.

Surely you can say that about a lot of cars, like Noble or the Mclaren F1 etc.. it seems a bit of a daft cheap shot. TVR's go like hell, the only problem I can see with them is, as everyone' said, high maintenance.

And HDI, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the cerbera was the first car TVR designed their own engine for:

Prior to the Cerbera, TVR had purchased V8 engines from Rover and then tuned them for their own use. When Rover was purchased by BMW, Peter Wheeler didn't want to risk problems should the Germans decide to stop manufacturing the engine. In response, he engaged the services of race engineer Al Melling to design a V8 engine that TVR could manufacture in-house and even potentially offer for sale to other car-makers. In an interview for the television program Top Gear, Wheeler explained "Basically, we designed the engine as a race engine. It was my idea at the time that if we wanted to expand, we ought to make something that we could sell to other people. We've ended up with a 75-degree V8 with a flat-plane crank. The bottom-half of the engine to the heads is exactly as you would see in a current Formula One engine."
Wheeler was quoted at the time of the car's launch as saying that the combination of light weight and high power was too much for a road car, a quote which ensured much free publicity in the press. Enthusiasts still argue about whether this was a typical example of Wheeler's legendary frankness, or an equally typical example of his PR chief Ben Samuelson's knack for saving on advertising costs by creating a story.
The result was dubbed the "Speed Eight" (official designation 'AJP8' after Al Melling, John Ravenscroft and Peter Wheeler, a 4.2 L V8 producing 360 horsepower (268 kW). A larger version of the engine was later offered that displaced 4.5 litres and output rose to 420 horsepower (310 kW). This larger engine was also fitted with a crankshaft that was made of steel for added strength and reliability. The smaller motor allowed the Cerbera to still achieve up to 185 mph (297 km/h).
The AJP8 has one of the highest specific outputs of any naturally aspirated V8 in the automotive world at 83.3 hp/litre for the 4.2 and 93.3 hp/litre for the 4.5. Later models of the 4.5 litre engine were given the option of being to the 'Red Rose' specification, which increased its output to 440 bhp (97.7 hp/litre) when fuelled with super-unleaded (high octane) and the driver pushed the unmarked button on the dashboard which altered the engine mapping to suit.
In some cases, real-world outputs for production V8s (4.5 in particular) were down from TVRs quoted output. Some of these have seen some form of modification (ECU, induction, exhaust etc.) to bring the power back up to the factory quoted output.
One of the unique attractions of the V8 Cerberas for many owners was the loud backfire produced on the over-run, usually when the throttle was disengaged, and particularly at low speeds. In fact this was the result of an argument at the factory between one of TVR's executives and the engineers mapping the engine. The engineers wanted to map out this "irregularity" to improve fuel efficiency and CO2 emissions, whilst the executive insisted it was exactly the kind of thing owners would like. In the end a compromise was reached in which the popping and banging remained on the 4.5 L cars.
The engine is also unusually compact for a V8. According to TVR, the total weight of the finished engine is 121 kilograms.
With the success of the Speed Eight program, Wheeler also undertook the design of a "Speed Six" engine to complement it. This engine also made its debut in the Cerbera. Unlike the Speed Eight, the new engine is 4.0 litre inline slant six (I6) design. It also differs from the V8 in having four valves per cylinder to the Speed Eight's two.
 
yeh thats what I ment, they used to do it prior to the cerbera but the Cerbera was the first one they designed their own right?

Anyhuu, I decided to stick with the Tigra BTW, as I don't think I can afford the maintenance upkeep of a TVR
 
Didn't TVR have a thing for using the Buick small block V8? It's the same aluminium engine Rover used in the SD1. Range Rover still uses this lump but in 4.6 litre capacity.

Range Rovers started using BMW 4.4 V8's some time ago (2002 I think) and have been using Jaguar based 4.2 & 4.4 V8's for the last three years at least.

http://www.rangerovers.net/modelspecs/index.html

All Rover V8 engine production for cars ended in 2005 I believe. Though it was originally made from Buick production drawings after buying the production licence, it was developed and tested then productionised totally by Rover and has earned itself a name in history as The Rover V8. :)

http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Rover-Autocar-Article.htm

p.s. I think you need to be an ardent fan and committed enthusiast to put up with a TVR as a daily driver. I don't think they even register on any reliability scale! Lovely cars though and the Rover Powered ones sounded the best IMO.
 
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