speeding

[lyndsey]

whats the longest time you will hear about it if you have been caught speeding, or how soon you likely to hear? :sad2:

 

[Prince]

I've been told that you must be sent a letter within 2 weeks of the incident...currently waiting myself .

 

[HDi fun]

The last time I had accurate information it was 14 days for the authorities to deliver a letter to you. That letter required you to nominate the driver at the time of the alleged speeding offence.

If your car is registered in your name, and at your address then after 14 days you can disregard the whole thing. Don't reply as that's an admission that you knew who was driving.

 

[HDi fun]

Of course, if it takes three months to locate you because your DVLA records are in disarray then you can't use the 14 day rule.

 

[obi_waynne]

Was it a camera or road side manual speed trap?

 

[Hayley1]

2 weeks,
lesson of the year: don't speed!

 

[Prince]

It was a speed van, cleverly hiding on a swerve. I came around the bend, saw it, then dropped my speed by 10 mph as quick as I could!

Why can you disregard the incident after 14 days?

 

[HDi fun]

2 weeks,
lesson of the year: don't speed!

Come on H1, that's a bit negative. Keep your high speeds for bigger roads and keep you eyes skinned for anything, cameras, speed vans in addition to other hazardous situations.

 

[HDi fun]

You're in the clear anyway. Without evidence you have to be cautioned at the roadside.

 

[Hayley1]

I didn't mean it in a harsh way, every learns their lesson at some point including me.
I'm sure you wont get a speeding fine or speed seminar, they seem to be relaxing at the mo, my mate got a warning for doing 50 in a 30.

 

[lyndsey]

2 weeks,
lesson of the year: don't speed!

yes miss

 

[lyndsey]

I've been told that you must be sent a letter within 2 weeks of the incident...currently waiting myself .

haha naughty naughty

 

[lyndsey]

Was it a camera or road side manual speed trap?

rd side, does that make a diffrence ? this is second time for me but not heard for the first

 

[lyndsey]

I didn't mean it in a harsh way, every learns their lesson at some point including me.
I'm sure you wont get a speeding fine or speed seminar, they seem to be relaxing at the mo, my mate got a warning for doing 50 in a 30.

its not my fault, the min a really good banging tune comes on my driving improves haha. although i dont think the courts would take that into account, and anyway u can talk aint u the one with the signature ( i dont speed i just ride low?)

 

[Hayley1]

Yeah within the speed limits, well apart from on the motorway.
Like I said i didn't mean it in a harsh way, it was a joke I was being sarcastic!

 

[lyndsey]

Yeah within the speed limits, well apart from on the motorway.
Like I said i didn't mean it in a harsh way, it was a joke I was being sarcastic!

your more likely to get caught speeding on motorways than anywhere else, the rossers are always sittin on the bridges waiting for you to speed threw, and watch out as nowdays there in under cover focus st,s

 

[StevieDB9]

does anyone know, can you get done by the ol standard gatsos if you are driving towards them? I would have thought they wouldnt flash in your race but they have the spacing lines on both sides of the road when you pass them.

 

[pgarner]

dunno about flashing in your race stevie

yeah i think you can be done in both directions

 

[HDi fun]

You cannot be caught by a Gatso facing toward you. Final answer. This is because the flash might cause vision problems for the approaching driver.

The lines go both ways as sometimes the cameras are used alternately on both sides of the carriageway. Especially those in the central reservation of dual carriageways.

Don't confuse these with the Truevelo devices. They do work facing you. They use inductions strips in the road surface to detect your presence, position and speed so radar detectors won't disclose their presence.

THey also use infra-red flash, thus bypassing the dazzled driver problem.

The biggest risk to us all now is the mobile units. If you're lucky it's being operated by a proper police officer. They're generally quite sensible in application of the road fraffic law.

THe civvies are brutal and over zealous in my opinion.

 

[pgarner]

im wondering if thats the ones im thinking about, look like the gatsos but bout half the size ?

 

[HDi fun]

I'll find some pictures. THey do look very different and usually have the brand name TRUEVELO painted upon the support post. There's a new Truevelo I've noticed recently which is disturbingly hard to spot as the camera is no wider than the support pole.

 

[pgarner]

think it could be the same ones as im thinking off then,
when i said half size meant more in width than hight

 

[pgarner]

found pic

ones ive seen look slghtly wider than these so might not have been them


pic taken from msn

 

[HDi fun]

That's the ones. Nasty devices. Needlessly placed and without any warning of them as you approach. It really is time we started look at driving standards properly and dismissed speeding as the solitary cause of all road incidents.

 

[StevieDB9]

heer heer

 

[obi_waynne]

Cue cameras that watch distance between cars and weaving around inside each lane.

 

[Prince]

I'm fine with road safety cameras...but speed cameras really p*** me off. We pay for them to try and get us to pay more!

P.S. 14 days went by and I received no notice...so I was lucky that day!

 

[HDi fun]

You're clear Prince. Pay it no more mind whatsoever.

You'll be surprised to know that the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) does not hold speed vans in high regard at all.

I'm with Swindon Town Council and it's decision to abolish FIP speed cameras. Let's just hope that the decision is not to enforce needlessly low speed limits with mobile ones instead.

The 14 day rule is probably a good one for this reason:

If you received a letter asking you to nominate a driver for an alleged offence six months after its commital then it's reasonable defence that you cannot remember that far back.

There are a number of legal fragilities that help people challenged by speed cameras to defend or have their prospective cases abandoned by the courts.

 

[HDi fun]

Take a look here:

http://www.abd.org.uk/defence.htm

 

[HDi fun]

Not so long ago there was a zero tolerance policy on the M4 close to London (between jcts 9 and 2)

So, if you were flashed for 71mph you got a ticket.

Might as well maximise this then - drive at 89.9 mph and get exactly the same fine and points penalty.

Strangely the average speeds increased (what a surprise). Yet the accident rate dropped.

 

[HDi fun]

and here:

http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Accused_Home/Rules_useage/The_Law.htm

 

[thexav]

You've done a bit of research into speeding then HDI!

Do you offer defense representation at a discounted rate to TorqueCars members?

 

[pgarner]

yeah HDI you should retrain as a lawyer based on traffic, between you (and OG ) you could make a packet

 

[HDi fun]

HDi has studied law extensively.

He is not, however, qualified to practice.

I have had a few minor results working on behalf of friends and family.

For example - recovering £700 from a mobile phone provider who tried to enforce a contract that I felt was unlawful.

Traffic law has become a minefield with the advent of automated speed enforcement during the early 1990s.

The simplest answer, of course, is to stick to the posted speed limits. What's disappointing is that there are people who do just this but still prove to be exceptionally poor drivers despite never exceeding the speed limit.