Tuning A3 2.0 TDI

[finch515]

Hello,

This is my first post so i apologise if the topic has been covered before.

I have an Audi A3 2.0 TDi, I want to make it more powerful but don't want to waste money doing the wrong things.

What upgrades have people done and what gains have they acheived?

Are there and DIY modifications that i can do while i save for specialist jobs?

Thankyou
Lee

 

[pgarner]

hey and welcome to the site mate,

more power, how much power? a remap will take it above 170bhp and a shed load of torque - although less than the older 1.9 i still think it makes around 300ftlb.
decat and DPF removal are also good mods as they remove the big restrictions from the exhaust. car will smoke more however.

after that your looking at bigger injectors / nozzels and turbos.

 

[turbonutter69]

Hello and Welcome to Torquecars.:bigsmile:
Hope you enjoy your time with us.

 

[finch515]

ah right.....i think a remap will be first on the list....(are the plug-in tuning boxes any good?)

then the cat and the dpf may be shown the door

What upgrade injectors are available? will ones from a bigger engine fit? I should probably ask the mapping company for advice

 

[WLBjork]

Probably best.

One of our members, HDIFun had his Peugeot remapped by Celtic Tuning, and he had an excellent experience with them.

Exact gains are dependent on the engine. The older PD engine is quoted at 201hp and 311ft-lb whereas the newer CR will generate only 195hp but provide 328lb-ft.

Might be an idea to look for the 170hp varients. Both PD and CR are quoted to map to 211hp, and develop 321lb-ft.

A proper map will be more beneficial than a generic map, but obviously it costs a bit more. Bit like the fit of tailored and mass-produced clothing I suppose.

 

[HDi fun]

I'd give tuning boxes a wide berth, especially so since your car has a DPF. This was the same advice I was given with mine. It was the first car to be DPF equipped in the UK and at the time very little was known about them.

The remap will make a monumetous difference to the torque delivery and performance.

I doubt you'll need upgraded injectors unless you're also upgrading the turbocharger.

Cat and DPF removal will render your car very dirty and attract police attention.

 

[finch515]

looks like just a remap is the way forward then.....thankyou very much for the advice

Any good mapping places in the Yorkshire area?

 

[HDi fun]

looks like just a remap is the way forward then.....thankyou very much for the advice

Any good mapping places in the Yorkshire area?

My experience with remapping is limited to that with Celtic Tuning. They do offer a Nationwide service and I would recommend them as a first port of call.

They've been doing this for quite a while now and do specialise in diesel tuning.

When they dealt with my car it was during early 2006. At that time they really only worked on diesel cars. However, the results were superb.

Don't dismiss other tuning companies, but still do have a look at Celtic:-

http://www.celtictuning.co.uk

 

[finch515]

I've looked at your link and it seems that nearly 200bhp and 330lb/ft are possible.

I think a phone call needs to be made

Thankyou for your help

 

[geraint13]

if you have it done let us know how it went.

 

[Yugguy]

I thought the 140 was a better engine as it didnt have the dpf? But the 170 does.

 

[pgarner]

yes and no.

the 140 was avalible as both PD and CR. the older PD ones didnt get PDF. where as afaik all 170 models were CR.

the swap over depends on the marque and model. some audis used the CR engines as soon as they released the 2.0 where as, off memory, skoda waited till closer to 2007 to swap to them

 

[jarrus]

Just did some research, the 170 and 140 2.0 tdi's were CR and PD,:

2.0 R4 16v TDI PD 103-125kW

This Pumpe Düse (PD) TDI engine was introduced to replace the older higher-powered versions of the 1.9 TDI. It is the first four-cylinder 16-valve double overhead camshaft (DOHC) Turbocharged Direct Injection (TDI) engine made by Volkswagen Group.

identification
parts code prefix: 038
engine configuration & engine displacement
inline four cylinder (R4/I4) Turbocharged Direct Injection (TDI) turbodiesel; 1,968 cubic centimetres (120.1 cu in); bore x stroke: 81.0 by 95.5 millimetres (3.19 in × 3.76 in), stroke ratio: 0.85:1 - undersquare/long-stroke, 492.1 cc per cylinder; compression ratio: 18.5:1
cylinder block & crankcase
grey cast iron; five main bearings, die-forged steel crankshaft, fracture-split forged steel connecting rods, cast aluminium alloy oil sump
cylinder head & valvetrain
cast aluminium alloy; four valves per cylinder, 16 valves total, timing belt-driven double overhead camshaft (DOHC)
aspiration
hot-film air mass meter, Garrett turbocharger integrated into cast iron exhaust manifold, sandwiched central front-mounted intercooler (FMIC)
fuel system & engine management
Pumpe Düse (PD) direct injection (DI): engine-driven vane-type low pressure fuel lift pump, four camshaft-actuated (via roller rocker arms) high pressure Bosch 2,200–2,400 bars (31,910–34,810 psi) Unit Injectors with piezo valve injection nozzles, Bosch EDC 16 or EDC 17 or Siemens VDO SIMOS PPD1 electronic engine control unit (ECU) with altitude compensation, EU4 compliant
exhaust system
water-cooled exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), diesel particulate filter (DPF)
DIN-rated motive power & torque outputs, ID codes
103 kilowatts (140 PS; 138 bhp) — BKD, BKP
125 kilowatts (170 PS; 168 bhp) @ 4,200 rpm; 350 newton metres (258 ft·lbf) @ 1,800-2,500 rpm — ????
applications
Audi 8P A3, Audi B7 A4, Audi B8 A4, Audi C6 A6, SEAT León Mk2, Škoda Octavia (BKD: 11/08->), Škoda Superb (BKD: 01/09->), Volkswagen Golf Mk5, Volkswagen Golf Mk6, VW Jetta Mk5, Volkswagen Touran, VW Passat B6
reference
"New VW Passat in depth". WorldCarFans.com. Volkswagen AG. 4 March 2005. http://www.worldcarfans.com/10503049405/new-vw-passat-in-depth/page6. Retrieved 6 November 2009.

2.0 R4 16v TDI CR 81-132kW

identification
parts code prefix: 03L, ID codes: CAGA, CAGC, CAHA, CBAA, CBAB, CBBB, CBDB, CBDC, CEGA, CFCA
engine configuration & engine displacement
inline four cylinder (R4/I4) Turbocharged Direct Injection (TDI) turbodiesel; 1,968 cubic centimetres (120.1 cu in); bore x stroke: 81.0 by 95.5 millimetres (3.19 in × 3.76 in), stroke ratio: 0.85:1 - undersquare/long-stroke, 492.1 cc per cylinder, compression ratio: 18:1 (103 kW), 16.5:1 (125 kW)
cylinder block & crankcase
grey cast iron; five main bearings, die-forged steel crankshaft, fracture-split forged steel connecting rods, two counter-rotating gear-driven balance shafts turning at half crankshaft speed, Alcan or Federal-Mogul pistons, cast aluminium alloy oil sump
cylinder head & valvetrain
cast aluminium alloy; four valves per cylinder, 16 valves total, low-friction roller finger cam followers with automatic hydraulic valve clearance compensation, timing belt and gear-driven (relay method: belt drives exhaust camshaft from front of engine, inlet camshaft is driven at rear of engine by gear from exhaust camshaft) double overhead camshaft (DOHC)
aspiration
hot-film air mass meter, electronically regulated variable geometry turbocharger integrated into cast iron exhaust manifold, central front-mounted intercooler (FMIC)
aspiration (147 kW)
twin registered turbochargers with different diameters[citation needed]
fuel system & engine management
low-pressure fuel tank mounted fuel lift pump with underfloor electric fuel relay pump, timing belt-driven high pressure injection pump delivering up to 1,850-bar (26,830 psi) pressure for the common rail (CR) fuel rail, direct injection (DI) with eight-nozzle output piezo fuel injectors; Bosch EDC 17 electronic engine control unit (ECU)
exhaust system
water-cooled exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), catalytic converter, diesel particulate filter (DPF)
DIN-rated motive power & torque outputs, ID codes, applications
81 kilowatts (110 PS; 109 bhp) @ 4,200 rpm; 250 newton metres (184 ft·lbf) @ 1,500–2,500 rpm — CBDC
88 kilowatts (120 PS; 118 bhp) @ 4,000 rpm; 290 newton metres (214 ft·lbf) @ 1,750-2,500 rpm — CAGC SEAT Exeo (09/09->)
103 kilowatts (140 PS; 138 bhp) @ 3,750-4,150 rpm; 320 newton metres (236 ft·lbf) @ 1,750-2,800 rpm — CBAA, CBAB, CBDB
105 kilowatts (143 PS; 141 bhp) @ 4,200 rpm; 320 newton metres (236 ft·lbf) @ 1,750-2,500 rpm — Audi B8 A4, Audi Q5, SEAT Exeo (CAGA: 12/08->)
125 kilowatts (170 PS; 168 bhp) @ 4,200 rpm; 350 newton metres (258 ft·lbf) @ 1,750-2,500 rpm — CBBB Audi TT 2.0 TDI quattro, Audi 8P A3; CEGA; SEAT Exeo (CAHA: 02/09->)
132 kilowatts (179 PS; 177 bhp) @ 4,000 rpm; 400 newton metres (295 ft·lbf) @ 1,500-2,000 rpm — CFCA Volkswagen Transporter (T5) GP biturbo
applications
Audi TT Mk2 2.0 TDI quattro (CBBB: 06/08-05/10), Audi 8P A3 (CBBB: 07/08->), Audi B8 A4, Audi Q5, SEAT Leon Mk2 (1P), SEAT Altea, SEAT Toledo Mk3 (5P), SEAT Exeo, Škoda Octavia Mk2 (1Z) (125 kW), Škoda Superb Mk2 (3T) (125 kW), Škoda Yeti (81/103/125 kW), Volkswagen Golf Mk6, VW Jetta Mk5 TDI CleanDiesel (103 kW), Volkswagen Tiguan, Volkswagen Passat CC, Volkswagen Transporter (T5)
references
"50 mpg-plus Audi diesel sports car cleans up in Geneva". Audi.co.uk. Audi UK. 28 February 2008. http://www.audi.co.uk/about-audi/la...di-diesel-sports-car-cleans-up-in-geneva.html. Retrieved 4 January 2010.
"Audi's new TT TDI is going on sale this spring in Europe". Green.AutoBlog.com. AUDI AG. 28 April 2008. http://green.autoblog.com/2008/04/28/audis-new-tt-tdi-is-going-on-sale-this-spring-in-europe. Retrieved 4 January 2010.

I'd say yours is the PD mate, which is a better engine for making power!!

 

[andymac]

Hello,

This is my first post so i apologise if the topic has been covered before.

I have an Audi A3 2.0 TDi, I want to make it more powerful but don't want to waste money doing the wrong things.

What upgrades have people done and what gains have they acheived?

Are there and DIY modifications that i can do while i save for specialist jobs?

Thankyou
Lee

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[admin]

Our new forum sponsor JR tuning should be able to help out, I believe he's remapping our very own boss's car (an A3 2.0 TDi 140 BKD PD engine) shortly! I expect he will be posting up a review when it's done.