Re: Your thoughts on the Panemera?
Ok then Pete, Panemera vs the Cayenne? Which one is the looker?
Ok then Pete, Panemera vs the Cayenne? Which one is the looker?
Panemera vs the Cayenne for looks
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pete917
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Re: Your thoughts on the Panemera?
Hi Wayne -
For me the answer is neither! I think they are both ugly. But I think the X5, the range rover, and all tose are ugly too.
Dont get me wrong, the Cayenne and the Panemera are both awesome pieces of technological achievement but they just dont rock my boat.
Im a real Old School Porsche 911 fan. I just love the classic lines, the simplicity of the design and the way they perform.
Hi Wayne -
For me the answer is neither! I think they are both ugly. But I think the X5, the range rover, and all tose are ugly too.
Dont get me wrong, the Cayenne and the Panemera are both awesome pieces of technological achievement but they just dont rock my boat.
Im a real Old School Porsche 911 fan. I just love the classic lines, the simplicity of the design and the way they perform.
Re: Your thoughts on the Panemera?
I suppose some might say they are an aquired taste.
I suppose some might say they are an aquired taste.
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Re: Your thoughts on the Panemera?
With you on that one Pete. No character to them at all and have you heard the new V8 engines. No, exactly they're too smooth and quiet for a proper sports car which is Porsches heritage at the end of the day. I was at my Porsche independent and a Cayenne was driven out of the workshop and I didn't hear it at all! Now an old school 928 would of rumbled out with the ground shaking, wonderful noise that made
I suppose emissions and the like have killed the fun factor from the current execitive breed.
By the way, love your 911 pics on your home page:bigsmile:
Andy
With you on that one Pete. No character to them at all and have you heard the new V8 engines. No, exactly they're too smooth and quiet for a proper sports car which is Porsches heritage at the end of the day. I was at my Porsche independent and a Cayenne was driven out of the workshop and I didn't hear it at all! Now an old school 928 would of rumbled out with the ground shaking, wonderful noise that made
I suppose emissions and the like have killed the fun factor from the current execitive breed.
By the way, love your 911 pics on your home page:bigsmile:
Andy
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yeah they are quite, which, I guess for the target market of the panemera, quite is what they would want. i mean its basically a 911 for the family man who wants the name of the car, not necesarially the performance. but an aftermarket exhuast and intake will fix the noise problem. i was in berlin last week, and was talking to a man who bought a panemera turbo, and he has gotten a carbon fiber cold air intake, and a full exhaust, all done at some shop in berlin. he started it up for me, and it sounded like a v8 should. it was loud, but not loud enought to be annoying. and with the intake, it had a nice sound when revved. but stock, its just not what it should be. and the turbo should have more power for the engine size, and the 2 turbos on it. and the car shouldnt be so heavy, if porsche fixed the noise, added more power, and took off some couple hundred pounds of weight, the car would be worth the money, utnil then, i'd take a maserati quattroporte GTS any day.
yeah they are quite, which, I guess for the target market of the panemera, quite is what they would want. i mean its basically a 911 for the family man who wants the name of the car, not necesarially the performance. but an aftermarket exhuast and intake will fix the noise problem. i was in berlin last week, and was talking to a man who bought a panemera turbo, and he has gotten a carbon fiber cold air intake, and a full exhaust, all done at some shop in berlin. he started it up for me, and it sounded like a v8 should. it was loud, but not loud enought to be annoying. and with the intake, it had a nice sound when revved. but stock, its just not what it should be. and the turbo should have more power for the engine size, and the 2 turbos on it. and the car shouldnt be so heavy, if porsche fixed the noise, added more power, and took off some couple hundred pounds of weight, the car would be worth the money, utnil then, i'd take a maserati quattroporte GTS any day.
Re: Your thoughts on the Panemera?
It's funny how much difference an engines noise makes to the driver experience.
It's funny how much difference an engines noise makes to the driver experience.
Aerial Andy944
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Re: Your thoughts on the Panemera?
Absolutely Waynne. I haven't even got a radio unit in my 944. Induction noise and wastegate whistle all the way:bigsmile:
Funny how there's at least one person a month on the Porsche forum asking what exhaust system they can change to for there newly acquired 944 or 911sc etc because the standard one isn't "meaty enough" but they don't want too loud
Absolutely Waynne. I haven't even got a radio unit in my 944. Induction noise and wastegate whistle all the way:bigsmile:
Funny how there's at least one person a month on the Porsche forum asking what exhaust system they can change to for there newly acquired 944 or 911sc etc because the standard one isn't "meaty enough" but they don't want too loud
Re: Your thoughts on the Panemera?
Who are the Porsche exhaust specialists then?
Who are the Porsche exhaust specialists then?
Aerial Andy944
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Re: Your thoughts on the Panemera?
Mines a 3" custom JMG one made to order. Other companys are Dansk, Fabspeed, Haywood and scott.
http://www.haywardandscott.com/
http://www.fabspeed.com/index.html
http://www.danskus.com/shop_dansk/d...VID_4059200-VCD_73404846-gid_272/Muffler.html
There are others but these are the ones that seem to crop up mostly. Mainly American import but these are designed for the American cars which have bigger bumpers so when fitted to UK cars they stick out to far. Why I've got a JMG one which is very similar to the Fabspeed one in design (JMG manufacture the turbo downpipe for Fabspeed and export to them!) but fits mine perfectly.
Look at the Fabspeed video in the 944 section on there site to see a 944T wheel spinning down the road :bigsmile:
Mines a 3" custom JMG one made to order. Other companys are Dansk, Fabspeed, Haywood and scott.
http://www.haywardandscott.com/
http://www.fabspeed.com/index.html
http://www.danskus.com/shop_dansk/d...VID_4059200-VCD_73404846-gid_272/Muffler.html
There are others but these are the ones that seem to crop up mostly. Mainly American import but these are designed for the American cars which have bigger bumpers so when fitted to UK cars they stick out to far. Why I've got a JMG one which is very similar to the Fabspeed one in design (JMG manufacture the turbo downpipe for Fabspeed and export to them!) but fits mine perfectly.
Look at the Fabspeed video in the 944 section on there site to see a 944T wheel spinning down the road :bigsmile:
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Re: Your thoughts on the Panemera?
Hayward and Scott for me
I have a H&S system fitted to mine. Here's how she sounds now:
http://www.youtube.com/user/911myporsche#p/a/u/0/9ajnJd1dZqg
Hayward and Scott for me
I have a H&S system fitted to mine. Here's how she sounds now:
http://www.youtube.com/user/911myporsche#p/a/u/0/9ajnJd1dZqg
Aerial Andy944
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Re: Your thoughts on the Panemera?
Ah the sounds of and air cooled flat six :love:
Very Very nice Pete.
Have you ever seen Brett Ainley's 928 Armageddon. Nearly blew all the windows out at A Porsche OPC open day a few weeks back. They were not impressed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpCK6PPVcjA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjDLU_Ua2n4
Catch at a TIPEC meet some time mate
Ah the sounds of and air cooled flat six :love:
Very Very nice Pete.
Have you ever seen Brett Ainley's 928 Armageddon. Nearly blew all the windows out at A Porsche OPC open day a few weeks back. They were not impressed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpCK6PPVcjA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjDLU_Ua2n4
Catch at a TIPEC meet some time mate
Awesome sounds.
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Thank you
The music doesn't go but with an exhaust that sounds like that who needs music!
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