Ok here's a general tech Topic "Hydrodgen" conversion chamber

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At the risk of being bagged out and/or ridiculed as I was on another forum for suggesting it.
Does anyone have any interest in Hydrodgen conversion system PLANS.
( as in I have step by step plan, not "I have plans to make it someday"
Also NOT a squirt water in your intake system but an equivalent to dual fuel switching system like Petrol/gas but Petrol/Hydrogen.
(only fill a conversion chamber with water which splits the water cell into H2+O2 and is fed by vacuum to intake. Also not using chemicals and Not buy a H2 Cell from a servo)

Comments???? PS; not just going to put the plans I have up, Its a large file and about 100 pages of instructions From shematics to "Blueprints".
What I'm after is another interested party who could put together a Toroid coil which has 2000 winds (specific measurements on the coil and guage of wire). I'll leave it at this for now and see what comes of it. There's much more to do to have it up and hopefully working.
 
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Hydrogen as a fuel in my opinion is the way forward. I don't know how you'd go about fitting a conversion. How would you extract the stored energy in water without a cell??
 
Hydrogen as a fuel in my opinion is the way forward. I don't know how you'd go about fitting a conversion. How would you extract the stored energy in water without a cell??

The plans/blue prints I have, Give the instructions to build a chaimber
for that side of things. There's also a circuitry board to be made.
It has been designed to "aledgedly" work on the voltage system of the car (hence 14V+-). The plans include wiring layout for guages,switches, pressure relief valve etc.
I say aledgedly as I havent put it together to try it out.(mainly due to the lack of funds, not that it would cost much to build but you would need the materials. Most of the parts list is obtainable through a good hardware shop and an electrical engineering firm is were I'd probably need to go for the toroid coil. Easiest would be to get it made but cheapest would be to get the part and copper wire to make it (toroid coil) myself. Time I have lots of.
The end result would be to use petrol to start and run the car but to be able to switch over to the hydrodgen system (most importantly to be able to have a water tank to fill instead of a Hydrodgen system that requires the service station that supply the hydrodgen).
 
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in theroy yes it works but what your talking about if cold fusion - basically if this worked easily then the worlds fuel problems would be solved.
water is split into H and 2 O
fed through and burned. the burning is used to turn turbines etc to produce power
the water is then returned and resplit

problem is it takes masses of energy to split water
 
in theroy yes it works but what your talking about if cold fusion - basically if this worked easily then the worlds fuel problems would be solved.
water is split into H and 2 O
fed through and burned. the burning is used to turn turbines etc to produce power
the water is then returned and resplit

problem is it takes masses of energy to split water

Yes I know. That's why I'm curious about this set of plans I have as it explains in it about the need for heaps of energy required but that this "design" has been made to work with much less energy.
Also we are talking about a small volume of hydrodgen that is required for the running of the engine. Also that you would be running a common piston engine, not a turbine. The alternator system in the vehicle is "sufficient" for the energy required by the conversion system.

I will re-stipulate that I have not made this system to be able confirm or deny that it works. I have been searching the internet for these plans but have not found them again (YET). Luckily I downloaded them back when I did find them and still have them.
(Only luckily if I can get it to work ofcourse)
If it were to work it would be a big thing indeed.
I don't know if you know of the guy. Stan Meyers who did run his beach buggy by filling up with water and had HIS device convert it to hydrodgen in the late 60's early 70's.
He was going to mass produce that product but sadly was murdered in the way of death by poisoning, just before it came on the market.
Needless to say it's not on the market!!!
There are links to his invention and news bulletins etc.
I can put a link to it if interested but it doesn't give any plans on how to make his device.
There is however something similar to this device (plans for the device)
On you tube about an American County that has this similar setup on their Police cars. They are running on Hydrodgen that is being converted as its needed so to speak. But it is a bit different to this one (I think)
Weather or not I get others interested I will have a go at it.
Bear in mind that if it works you probably wont hear from me again:lol:

I'm sure that you would realize that the Oil Companies would do anything to stop something like this if it did work. Can you imagine the economic fallout from people being able to utilize water ( and by this I mean pretty much any water, not just drinking water) to have your car running at next to no cost. You would still need the fuel system as it is said in the plans to start on petrol before changing to H and again at the end of a journey.
 
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I've copied some of the "speil" for a bit of a read,

Is there no way to buy this system and get someone to fit it?
At this current moment in time, you can not buy a water-fueled system, it is
not being manufactured. Within a decade this will without doubt be possible.
The Water Fueled-System
The main part of this system is the Hydrogen/Oxygen generator, (you can see
the whole system on the diagram on page 48), this is what converts water into
the gases which will ultimately power your engine, enabling you to use water
as a fuel. A water pump and tank will store and supply the water for the
generator. Precise electronic signals from the HyTronics Module initiate and
sustain the creation of hydrogen and oxygen within the Generator. An In-dash
gauge and indicator assembly allows you to accurately monitor all aspects of
the water-fueled system.
Feel free to read through any part as many times as you like if you get
confused with any of this. Now lets go through each part of the system and
explain how it works to give you a good understanding.
The Hydrogen/Oxygen Generator
The Hydrogen/Oxygen Generator is the heart of the system. This is a round
cylinder constructed from high temperature CPVC pipe, this is a material widely
used by builders and in plumbing systems. This is very strong, practically
indestructible. You will have no trouble at all working with this material, alike a
lot of materials, CPVC is very user-friendly and easy to work with.
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Figure 1
The generator housing contains a coil and two cylindrical electrodes, these are
used to generate hydrogen and oxygen. Each of these are made from stainless
steel and ceramic, these are very durable materials.
Two atomically different forms of Hydrogen are produced within this generator.
Most of the Hydrogen produced is orthohydrogen, this is a powerful and fast
burning gas, created by the two electrodes. A high frequency signal from the
hyTonics module activates and controls the electrodes.
The other form of Hydrogen, parahydrogen, is created by the coil, but in a lot
less quantity than orthohydrogen. This is a low frequency electronic signal
from a separate circuit within the hyTronics module, which controls and
activates the coil. Parahydrogen is less powerful than ortohydrogen and a lot
slower burning gas, however this is highly necessary, it prevents
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“precombustion” within your engine. The job of Parahydrogen is to slow the
burning rate of the Hydrogen mix, which boosts its octane level. These controls
allow you to match your engines octane requirements. To raise octane levels in
gasoline, specific additives must be used to slow down it’s burning rate.
One way to look at the Hydrogen/Oxygen generator is as an electronic circuit,
this is basically what it is. The two electrodes form a huge capacitor, with water
acting as it’s dielectric. The inner electrode is negatively charged and the outer
electrode is positively charged by the high frequency hyTronics signal. Each
water molecule is composed of two positively charged atoms of hydrogen and
one negatively charged atom of oxygen. Since opposite charges attract, the
positively charged hydrogen atoms are pulled towards the inner electrode. At
the same time, the negatively charged oxygen atoms are pulled towards the
outer electrode. This aligns all the water molecules between the electrodes,
with the ends of each molecule being pulled in opposite directions.
For a few moments, only the accurate alignment and increased pulling action
upon the water molecules occurs. The HyTronics signal pulses keep charging
the water capacitor to higher and higher voltage levels. The electrical force
then becomes so great that the water molecules burst apart into their gaseous
forms of Hydrogen and Oxygen. This makes the formation of millions of tiny
Hydrogen and Oxygen gas bubbles. As long as the HyTronics signal is applied,
the water capacitor remains fully charged, continuously creating orthohydrogen
and oxygen.
Another electronic signal is formed by the generator coil, this is an inductive
circuit which means it creates a magnetic field as opposed to a charged field
created by the water capacitor. The very low frequency Hytronics signal
activates the magnetic field of the coil. As soon as the pulse stops, the
magnetic field collapses. This creates an even stronger magnetic field, but a
field of opposite polarity. This is exactly how an inductive circuit works, each
pulse is timed so that immediately after the magnetic field reverses, another
short pulse arrives and once again the coil is charged and its magnetic field
collapses. Now the continually reversing magnetic field becomes even stronger
due to added energy of each new pulse. Eventually the coil reaches its
maximum magnetic strength, called its saturation point, which is extremely
high.
Most molecules are effected by magnetic fields. The coil’s reversing magnetic
fields vibrate the water molecules so severely that they disassociate into their
gaseous forms of parahydrogen and oxygen. Disassociation obviously occurs,
as evidenced by the creation of millions of tiny hydrogen and oxygen gas
bubbles around the coil. Nobody really knows how all this happens as magnetic
force remains a mystery even to scientists.
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This is the basic functioning of the generator, I hope this gives you a good
understanding of how it works, please re-read parts of that if you do not
understand. The generator is the heart of the system and other parts are
simply used to control the actions of this generator. By varying the strength
and frequency of the hyTonic signals, the rate at which hydrogen and oxygen
are created can be varied to match engine requirements at any particular
moment. Water is supplied by the tank and pump, while water level within the
generator is controlled by a level censor and switch. For safety purposes, a
relief valve protects against excess pressure buildup within the generator.
Separate ports are provided for attaching hoses to route gas to the engine and
to a gauge to monitor gas pressure within the generator. A drain vale is
installed to allow periodic flushing of accumulated minerals and contaminants.
 
I think I need to research toroid coils.

Sorry about the big write up but that is a needle in the haystack.
100 pages but it includes all needed from go to wo. Parts lists, pics, measurements, how to make the Toroid coil and that it needs 2000 winds of copper wire at a very specific measurement. I am deffinately going to have a go at making it. Will take a while though.
If your interested I'll send you the file.
 
If its so simple why has no one does this on a large scale? Or even mass production. This is what makes me sceptical.
 
Nothing to be sceptic about though. I think I mensioned before in which case I appologise for repeating. Stan meyers was going to mass produce and had already turned down an offer for 2 billion to shut it up and lock it away.
He was determined to see his invension introduced so they killed him. Death by poisining. On the American news and everthing.
Oil companies have the power to do anything to stop anything thats a threat.
My offer still stands though, If you want to read it I'll send you the file. It zips up pretty good for emailing. Costs you nothing.
Be back in the morning, oops it is morning. :)
 
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