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My carputer install

Discussion in 'ICE installs' started by pgarner, 13 November 2008.

  1. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Have you tried the windows "compress the drive" option? Its under disk cleanup and seems to work well.
     
  2. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    yeah ive compressed every folder apart from the main windows and roadrunner. did take it down by a lot.
    should be alright with that as using a 4gb card, next is cancelling the services that i havent already removed
     
  3. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    ok the picture youve been waiting for
    [​IMG]

    the screen back in the cage along with the buttons,
    didint realise id built it up so much the buttons sit back a bit. last time i looked i was too shocked by the dimples i never noticed

    so what was done

    after the dimpling it was sanded back down to the filler and 2 relatively thick coats of fiberglass reason painted on and left to dry ( think this is maybe whats built it up so much ) this was sanded smooth and primed. 2 coats of primer then 2 coats of matt paint left to dry overnight then 1 final coat, after this had a look at it, looking good so far.

    then went and thought something genius - clear sealer this would dry hard and prevent the dimpling happening again. the thought was good but not a perfect one, after spraying on the second coat realised that it was gloss and not a matt finish. as the sealer was still wet i chanced it and rubbed it off this left some light smearing so quickly sprayed some matt black on top of it. Worked out quite well as its left it textured.

    now got a new problem. VMware doesnt allow you to copy a virtual hard disc to a real one. and active disc manager doesnt recognise virtual or mapped discs, found some software that does allow it however i found some software that does allow you to copy everything - should point out for anybody not computer geeked that the operating system writes a small partition of the disc called the master boot record this store the loading information for the OS. doing a direct copy of the disc by copy and paste doesnt copy this part over so you get boot loading issues in the startup. - however this software is only evaluation and i wasnt willing to pay for the full version so it only copied the main partition and not the MBR
    so now i have to go and install it all.

    also looking at lowering the RAM down to 512 Mb to help with hibernation and Post times.

    1gb ram is also being used in new multimedia monitor in the dining room (carputer project gave me more ideas for a big touchscreen and motherboard on the back of it and ebays a great place for bargains in the recession)
     
  4. turbonutter69

    turbonutter69 TC ModFather Moderator

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    Told you you'd get there in the end... Tis looking good buddy....:bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile:
     
  5. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Well done mate. See it was worth it. What would you do differently next time?

    When does it go in the car.
     
  6. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    If i was to go back and do it again, id proberly adise myself to get practice in with the filler as i think getting it smooth was the hardest.

    as for going into the car ive still to remove the headunit and relocate it to the glovebox or boot. also trying to find a spares/repairs alpine headunit that has the same faceplate connection as wanting to keep the controls handy, so looking at fitting the spare connection into the coin holder beside the handbrake
    hopefully around 3-4 weeks and itll be in the car as long as theres no anymore problems.

    trying to clone the drive to the CF card at the min
     
  7. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Can't you get a remote for the headunit? Or are you wanting to keep the display handy as well?
     
  8. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    nah theres no remote avalible for the unit. wanted to keep the controls handy so can have got the option of the radio as well as full volume control
     
  9. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    crud turns out the CF/sata adaptor ive got wont allow me to boot of it.
    going to have to look for another 1.
     
  10. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    ok after more reading it looks more like its the CF card itself that could be the problem

    sine sandisk started producing Solid State drives theyve modified the CF cards so they can be booted from, 2 many people were buying the 4/8/16 gb cards and using an adaptor rather than spending more than double for the SSD.
    have ordered another cheap brand one to see if its any better, if not then ill have 2 4gb cards for sale
     
  11. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    ok ater getting the second card up and running it acctually slower belive it or not.
    it wouldnt take my image ether which meant doing a install onto the card (not that good)


    running of the sata drive with 2 partitions - 1 4gb boot and the other 331 gb .

    33 seconds from cold boot running as admin,
    21 seconds hibernate (10 seconds of this is the bios, looking at seeing if theres updtes avalible as theres been alot of complaints about the "fast post".

    30 seconds cold boot running minlogon ( runs as system account)
    19 secons hibernate.



    running of the CF card exact same installation.
    39 seconds cold
    30 hibernate

    just need to copy the audio across then its ready to go in the car when ive got it sorted out.
     
  12. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Interesting results. I wonder why it is slower.
     
  13. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    dunno going to try again with a new image as the 1 i had made was missing some files so was easier just to reinstall windows
     
  14. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    ok just a short update.
    new image didnt work on the CF card so sticking with the Hard disc
    New image has everything i need on it - cut down xp, mappoint, frontend, codecs, minlogon installed.
    according to bootvis it does a cold boot in 14 seconds (excluding bois and post times) cant get a proper time for hibernation as it comes up with an error in bootvis when it awakens.
    icon sizes and windows sizes have been made a lot bigger so that they are touch friendly

    in the car - holes drilled in the boot and nutserts fitted, ready for the 4 capscrews to hold it to the back seat.
    KCA lead for the AUX in has arrived
    and got a 6" iso extension lead whrich has been extended up to around 2 mtrs ( headunits going in the glovebox at the min with the idea of fitting it to the storage box in the back seats if it fits and if i can get a spare faceplate ) Looking at doing that this week if i get a chance and refit the storage tray in its place. Baically so its a case of removing the trim and radio cage and fitting in the new one
     
  15. turbonutter69

    turbonutter69 TC ModFather Moderator

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    Thats sweet buddy. I can't wait for the pics when it's in buddy...
     
  16. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    IT LIVES.​

    had it in the car earlier today and it fired up fine mo issues at all, shutdown controller works as well.
    the only issue i had was the GPS not working. mappoint comes up with a message box about a license issue, think this might be because of running under the system account (this is what minlogon does) as i had issues when i tried to install some of the software under this account. going to revert back to the admin account and see if it runs without an issue as it worked before activating minlogon

    homemade cable works fine and fits from the current location to the boot with a little spare
     
  17. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    sorry didnt have my phone with me at the time so coundnt take any pics. but will get some when its installed, hopefully will be in next week if i get a chance just trying to work out where all the screws are for the 8 or so panels that need to be removed.
    also need to take a stanley to the new radio cage as its been fitted for the older dial controls rather than the climatronic ones and is a very tight fit at the minute
     
  18. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Any pics yet PG?
     
  19. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    no as i took it back in the house to sort out the gps problem (required a proper keyboard to enter safe mode).
    hopefully fit it in properly next week just waiting on the USB extension cables as these were the only ones i forgot to order.
    screen wasnt fitted but sat in the passengers seat.
    really the only reason it was in the car was to double check all my cables worked and the shutdown controller worked ok with the ignition
     
  20. ash godsell

    ash godsell Tuner

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    not bad sounds quite good i just got my acer aspire one netbook in glove box with 3g mobile broadband
     
  21. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    yeah i did think about leaving a netbook in the car then done some research on it found out how easy it was to build one in,
    not bothering with the broadband as im using it mainly for music videos and gps, also have vagcom installed for faultcode reading and monitoring.
     
  22. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    hard a moment of inspiration last night at work (it was really slow).
    rather than fit it permanently into the boot i was thinking about how to fit the gauges to where the ashtray is currently. and then remembered the badger had covered some of his stuff in that thin carbon fibre.

    basically remove the parcel shelf, and take a fiberglass copy of it.
    fit a dummy computer, wooden box slightly bigger in dimensions than the real one, and a dummy amp, done the same way, on top of it.
    stretch some fleece over the top and make another copy over the top of it. basically the idea is to create a storage area within the parcel shelf for it and myamp. obviously id need to put some fans or something in to aid cooling adn look at covering with that carbon fiber badger used for 2 reasons.

    1) looks
    2) as its real carbon it should give it a bit more strength than the fleece/fiberglass


    in other words the only things that i will have in the boot will be the sub.

    carputer will still be installed in the boot until i get everything worked out.
     
  23. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    ok was hoping to get the carputer in the car this afternoon, thats been ditched.the old dears needed to borrow it, so shes had it from half 8 this morning.

    hoping to get up early tomorrow and get it fitted
    fingers crossed otherwise its going to be next tuesday before a have another day off
     
  24. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    Its in

    Right started this morning nice and early, took the wife into work for roughly half 7 and was back in lockerbie for around 8 ish. quick nip home to pick up the tools and away down to the parents.

    ok there was alot more panels than i originally thought to be removed so took around an hour to remove all but one as stupidly didnt think id need spanners to remove the armrest.
    so after an our i had something like this
    [​IMG]
    the radio cage itself took another 20 mins to remove, didnt realise there was soooo many screws to remove including another trim panel.
    The terminal blocks you can see in the pic are for the gauges as didnt want to completely remove the wiring but didnt want to leave any chance of a short on the line.

    ITS IN AND WORKING
    [​IMG]



    ok its working fin, however i was running out of time ( forgot the wife was on a half day and had to pick her up at half 12) so trying to get the trim panels back on became rushed.
    the glove box isnt fitting properly as the base needs to go back around an inch, doesnt look so bad in the pic as theres a screw holding it to the radio cage.
    but its hard to open just now
    [​IMG]
    and because i couldnt remove the armrest to get under the carpet to the back seats the wirings sitting onto of the carpet just now.



    [​IMG]


    but she works.

    hope if i get a chance tomorrow before going to work to get these small issues sorted.
    what i wont be getting fixed is the boot as theres currently wiring everywhere as didnt have the fuse holder with me or the distribution block so theres 4AWG wire with the thinner live wire wrapped round it and taped up, this will be done next Monday when ive got a lot more time
     
  25. thexav

    thexav Pro Tuner Staff Member

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    Looks nice. What about doing a step by step guide when its finished. Im sure with hindsite you could cut a few corners.
     
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