Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Loz's 1.8VVC Talon 100R
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charger69
Pro Tuner
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
the tyres are smokin hot mate. r888?
that's cool, so how the engine has been running? and what type was it?
the tyres are smokin hot mate. r888?
that's cool, so how the engine has been running? and what type was it?
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
The engines fine thanks
It's a Rover K series 1.8 vvc this particular one came from an MGF. The engine it's self is standard bar an air filter & a GTI based exhaust system, it's coupled to a low ratio PG1 gearbox with a Quaif LSD. Power output is a modest 143ish bhp. But it's enough to get the car from 0-60 in about 6.2 seconds. :bigsmile: The biggest advantage of the K series engine is it's very clever (read, awfully complex) variable valve system & it's low weight all alloy construction. The biggest disadvantage is it sometimes likes to eat head gaskets. :blink: But it's all swings & roundabouts.
The engines fine thanks
It's a Rover K series 1.8 vvc this particular one came from an MGF. The engine it's self is standard bar an air filter & a GTI based exhaust system, it's coupled to a low ratio PG1 gearbox with a Quaif LSD. Power output is a modest 143ish bhp. But it's enough to get the car from 0-60 in about 6.2 seconds. :bigsmile: The biggest advantage of the K series engine is it's very clever (read, awfully complex) variable valve system & it's low weight all alloy construction. The biggest disadvantage is it sometimes likes to eat head gaskets. :blink: But it's all swings & roundabouts. 
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
But mostly roundabouts with Rovers...lol
The engines fine thanks
But mostly roundabouts with Rovers...lol
charger69
Pro Tuner
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
the engine sounds awesome, cool power, and looks like close to the one of the honda crx the 1993 model i think. that's cool.
the engine sounds awesome, cool power, and looks like close to the one of the honda crx the 1993 model i think. that's cool.
pgarner
TC ModFather
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
i was thinking mostly downhills not swings and roundabouts :blink1:
i was thinking mostly downhills not swings and roundabouts :blink1:
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Good work mate, the seats look really comfy.
Good work mate, the seats look really comfy.
charger69
Pro Tuner
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
are you going to put there bucket seats, or will leave these ones?
are you going to put there bucket seats, or will leave these ones?
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
I'll stick with MGF seats for now, I use the car everyday & many people have advised me to avoid buckets because the their not very comfortable on long journeys. I think the MGF seats are a good compromise & with the harness locked off I'm very snug too :amuse:
I'll stick with MGF seats for now, I use the car everyday & many people have advised me to avoid buckets because the their not very comfortable on long journeys. I think the MGF seats are a good compromise & with the harness locked off I'm very snug too :amuse:
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Oi cheeky... Don't forget I have 1..... They are great cars. Ain't they Loz, come on back me up. Rover is the best.
Think i'll return to earth now :blink:
Oi cheeky... Don't forget I have 1.....
They are great cars. Ain't they Loz, come on back me up. Rover is the best. Think i'll return to earth now :blink:
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Yep your right TB69, England's answer to Alfa Romeo.
Yep your right TB69, England's answer to Alfa Romeo.
pgarner
TC ModFather
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
thats a good comparison loz
thats a good comparison loz
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Right I've aquired another thing...
The current dash is ok but it needs tidying so I've bought another dash the weekend, cost me a hefty £10 :toung: The plan is to chop it down a bit fit some (secret) goodies & once I'm happy with the fit I'll send it away to be flocked.
:amuse::cheesy:thats a good comparison loz
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Right I've aquired another thing...
The current dash is ok but it needs tidying so I've bought another dash the weekend, cost me a hefty £10 :toung: The plan is to chop it down a bit fit some (secret) goodies & once I'm happy with the fit I'll send it away to be flocked.
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Well it's been quiet recently so I thought I'd a little up date.
Unfortunately no exciting things to report although I've finally got round to fitting the BMC CDA kit!
Other than that I'm just checking the car over for it's MOT soon so after fitting a new coil pack, a job that's not as straight forward as you'd think. Rover in their wisdom placed the coil pack at a low point at the back of the engine! I checked the suspension at the same time only to find a worn track rod end... sigh That's now sorted, however no sooner had that been fixed I picked up a large stone chip in the windscreen on the motorway! So now Autoglass have been booked to fix that on friday.
In the mean time anyone got any ideas why the tick over keeps running fast (1500rpm) until I blip the throttle where it settles back to normal?
Well it's been quiet recently so I thought I'd a little up date.
Unfortunately no exciting things to report although I've finally got round to fitting the BMC CDA kit!
Other than that I'm just checking the car over for it's MOT soon so after fitting a new coil pack, a job that's not as straight forward as you'd think. Rover in their wisdom placed the coil pack at a low point at the back of the engine! I checked the suspension at the same time only to find a worn track rod end... sigh
That's now sorted, however no sooner had that been fixed I picked up a large stone chip in the windscreen on the motorway! So now Autoglass have been booked to fix that on friday.In the mean time anyone got any ideas why the tick over keeps running fast (1500rpm) until I blip the throttle where it settles back to normal?
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Does it do that from cold. I used to have a Vectra that did that when cold. It would rev to 1500rpm if I left it to warm up. And even when warm it would stay there until I blipped the throttle. Not sure if it's a problem or not though buddy.?
Well it's been quiet recently so I thought I'd a little up date.
Unfortunately no exciting things to report although I've finally got round to fitting the BMC CDA kit!
Other than that I'm just checking the car over for it's MOT soon so after fitting a new coil pack, a job that's not as straight forward as you'd think. Rover in their wisdom placed the coil pack at a low point at the back of the engine! I checked the suspension at the same time only to find a worn track rod end... sigh
In the mean time anyone got any ideas why the tick over keeps running fast (1500rpm) until I blip the throttle where it settles back to normal?
Does it do that from cold. I used to have a Vectra that did that when cold. It would rev to 1500rpm if I left it to warm up. And even when warm it would stay there until I blipped the throttle. Not sure if it's a problem or not though buddy.?
pgarner
TC ModFather
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
think its a rover problem mate.
the wife old 25 done it now and again it would just start revving on its own for no reason. soon as you blipped the throttle it would settle around 750rpm again.
think its a rover problem mate.
the wife old 25 done it now and again it would just start revving on its own for no reason. soon as you blipped the throttle it would settle around 750rpm again.
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
I've had a couple of cars that won't drop the automatic choke until you have used some revs. So if it is from cold then I don't think it's anything to worry about.
I've had a couple of cars that won't drop the automatic choke until you have used some revs. So if it is from cold then I don't think it's anything to worry about.
pgarner
TC ModFather
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
nah the wifes car would do it when it was warm as well. never found out what was causing it. didnt do it all the time
nah the wifes car would do it when it was warm as well. never found out what was causing it. didnt do it all the time
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Nope it's doing it warm too & it didn't do all through the really cold weather we had earlier this year either. On the way into work tonight it was going up as high as 2000rpm. If I rev it past 3500rpm it settles back to normal tickover, god knows what the people I pulled up behind thought!.
I was thinking on the way in tonight that I was doing a lot of reaching over the back of the engine over the throttle body when I changed the coil pack. So maybe I've upset something on the throttle linkage? I'll check this afternoon. Failing that, the car is also running rich so there maybe a problem with the cold start &/or the lambda sensor could also be causing this problem too. It's getting a new Lambda sensor next week.
Could it also be a faulty throttle pot possibly? Their easy to change, I may order one tomorrow & see what happens.
Why does everything happen all at once? & why just before the MOT too?!:toung:
Nope it's doing it warm too & it didn't do all through the really cold weather we had earlier this year either. On the way into work tonight it was going up as high as 2000rpm. If I rev it past 3500rpm it settles back to normal tickover, god knows what the people I pulled up behind thought!
. I was thinking on the way in tonight that I was doing a lot of reaching over the back of the engine over the throttle body when I changed the coil pack. So maybe I've upset something on the throttle linkage? I'll check this afternoon. Failing that, the car is also running rich so there maybe a problem with the cold start &/or the lambda sensor could also be causing this problem too. It's getting a new Lambda sensor next week.
Could it also be a faulty throttle pot possibly? Their easy to change, I may order one tomorrow & see what happens.
Why does everything happen all at once? & why just before the MOT too?!
:toung:
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Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Ahh, thanks stamford I'll look into that. :bigsmile:
Ahh, thanks stamford I'll look into that. :bigsmile:
charger69
Pro Tuner
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
the exhaust pipes come from the front of the engine out?
the exhaust pipes come from the front of the engine out?
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Yes the exhaust manifold comes out the front & passes under the sump out towards the back.
Yes the exhaust manifold comes out the front & passes under the sump out towards the back.
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charger69
Pro Tuner
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
What intercooler? Loz has a Naturally aspired engine...
What intercooler? Loz has a Naturally aspired engine...
charger69
Pro Tuner
pgarner
TC ModFather
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
doesnt make any difference really, the intercooler would normally be infront of the manifold. the only difference would be a longer run to the intake manifold, rather than a longer run from the turbo
doesnt make any difference really, the intercooler would normally be infront of the manifold. the only difference would be a longer run to the intake manifold, rather than a longer run from the turbo
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Right I'm back from my adventures!
First of all sorry I didn't answer you question in time Charger & tar to TB69 providing the answer. :bigsmile:
Well the Idling problem was a cock up on my behalf! I'd tightened the jubilee clip around the throttle body too tight a distorted the body. Apparently the plastic body was never designed for jubilee clips & so was very easy to distort & affect the action of the butterfly... D'oh!
I've now got a nice shiny metal throttle body :bigsmile:
Good news is the little Rover got through the MOT after replacing the N/S wheel bearing & four indicator bulbs ( the old ones were too white). I'm glad thats over!
Right I'm back from my adventures!
First of all sorry I didn't answer you question in time Charger & tar to TB69 providing the answer. :bigsmile:
Well the Idling problem was a cock up on my behalf! I'd tightened the jubilee clip around the throttle body too tight a distorted the body. Apparently the plastic body was never designed for jubilee clips & so was very easy to distort & affect the action of the butterfly... D'oh!
I've now got a nice shiny metal throttle body :bigsmile:
Good news is the little Rover got through the MOT after replacing the N/S wheel bearing & four indicator bulbs ( the old ones were too white). I'm glad thats over!
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Nice buddy good stuff. Hate MOT time myself.....
Oh an no worries about the Q and A.....
Nice buddy good stuff. Hate MOT time myself.....
Oh an no worries about the Q and A.....
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Here's something that's not really going to make the car go quicker but I though I'd share it with you.:amuse:
I saw these wipers on the Opieoils.co.uk web site (Dunno if you know, but Uncle Waynne has signed us up & we get a handy discount now) & I thought I'd give em a go.
They are made by a company called Trico & they produce blades for almost every car
I've always liked the new style wiper blades & it'll will be interesting to see if they offer any improvements in performance.
The new blades housing are a little on the chunky side where the wiper arms fits.
They seem well made & Fitting was easy, if a bit messy (the blades them selves have been coated in graphite). All I have to do now is wait for some rain, shouldn't take long! :toung:
A comparison of the two, new blade on the left, old on the right.
Here's something that's not really going to make the car go quicker but I though I'd share it with you.:amuse:
I saw these wipers on the Opieoils.co.uk web site (Dunno if you know, but Uncle Waynne has signed us up & we get a handy discount now
) & I thought I'd give em a go.
They are made by a company called Trico & they produce blades for almost every car
I've always liked the new style wiper blades & it'll will be interesting to see if they offer any improvements in performance.
The new blades housing are a little on the chunky side where the wiper arms fits.
They seem well made & Fitting was easy, if a bit messy (the blades them selves have been coated in graphite). All I have to do now is wait for some rain, shouldn't take long! :toung:
A comparison of the two, new blade on the left, old on the right.
charger69
Pro Tuner
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
that's cool, so when the air comes to the windshield, while driving.
that's cool, so when the air comes to the windshield, while driving.
pgarner
TC ModFather
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
the look like the areo wipers on my car, nice and good in the wet
the look like the areo wipers on my car, nice and good in the wet
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Earlier this week I looked around for roll bar padding & I have to say (cue Victor Meldrew voice) I can't believe how expensive the stuff is! The FIA approved stuff can cost up to 25 per meter, now I know you can't put a price on safety but... wow! But there's a reason why you can't just use pipe lagging & that is pipe lagging is not flame retardant when near a flame the stuff will turn to liquid and drip, not good in car! So I shopped around & I went for the Longacre stuff it's not FIA approved but it's flame retardent & the hole is offset so more padding is where it counts. The stuff also comes pre split down the back so you can fit it over the cage easily. Here's some pic's whaddya think?
It's chunkier than I expected!
Cosy!
Earlier this week I looked around for roll bar padding & I have to say (cue Victor Meldrew voice) I can't believe how expensive the stuff is! The FIA approved stuff can cost up to 25 per meter, now I know you can't put a price on safety but... wow! But there's a reason why you can't just use pipe lagging & that is pipe lagging is not flame retardant when near a flame the stuff will turn to liquid and drip, not good in car! So I shopped around & I went for the Longacre stuff it's not FIA approved but it's flame retardent & the hole is offset so more padding is where it counts. The stuff also comes pre split down the back so you can fit it over the cage easily. Here's some pic's whaddya think?
It's chunkier than I expected!
Cosy!
2fast2catch
Torque Master
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
thought the same, had areo wipers on the vec, brill on motorway as dont flap about like normal ones tescos usually have them on buy on get one get one free
thought the same, had areo wipers on the vec, brill on motorway as dont flap about like normal ones
tescos usually have them on buy on get one get one free
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
New wipers and new padding, you really are turning your stripped out racer into a luxury car. I hope the extra weight hasn't slowed you down!
New wipers and new padding, you really are turning your stripped out racer into a luxury car. I hope the extra weight hasn't slowed you down!
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
LOL! The padding is a sensible addition, my head is quite close to the cage & I didn't fancy coming into contact with it in a off. As for the wipers, I'll hace to weigh them there's less metal in the new ones so they might be lighter!:toung:
LOL! The padding is a sensible addition, my head is quite close to the cage & I didn't fancy coming into contact with it in a off. As for the wipers, I'll hace to weigh them there's less metal in the new ones so they might be lighter!
:toung:
Munday
Torque Junkie
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
Good progress mate, did you go for a 52 or 56mm TB to replace your old one? That should give a noticable increse in performance :toung:
Oh and update your journal on Metropower!
Good progress mate, did you go for a 52 or 56mm TB to replace your old one? That should give a noticable increse in performance :toung:
Oh and update your journal on Metropower!
Loz
Torque King
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
To be honest I don't know :embarrest: It was on the day of the MOT & the alloy throttle body was a spare Dudley (the car who owns Talon sports cars) had & it was put on at the last min along with a wheel bearing. When I've got the bonnet off again, I'll have a look. :bigsmile:
I've read about the larger 56mm TB being a good upgrade & it was something I was going to look at. If I haven't got one, I'll get one when I get the exhaust cam changed.
To be honest I don't know :embarrest: It was on the day of the MOT & the alloy throttle body was a spare Dudley (the car who owns Talon sports cars) had & it was put on at the last min along with a wheel bearing. When I've got the bonnet off again, I'll have a look. :bigsmile:
I've read about the larger 56mm TB being a good upgrade & it was something I was going to look at. If I haven't got one, I'll get one when I get the exhaust cam changed.
Munday
Torque Junkie
Re: Lozs Talon 100R Progress thread.
The 52mm is a straight fit. Some claim the 56mm is too big and slows down the velocity of the inlet air and can cause bogging down at low revs. However i never experienced this on mine and found good power gains. The 56mm TB has one less attachment for a breather, but it can be left to vent to atmosphere or a small filter placed on the end
The 52mm is a straight fit. Some claim the 56mm is too big and slows down the velocity of the inlet air and can cause bogging down at low revs. However i never experienced this on mine and found good power gains. The 56mm TB has one less attachment for a breather, but it can be left to vent to atmosphere or a small filter placed on the end
