From the ground up

CrazyCornerStone

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Peugeot 106 1.0
I have a nice 1.0 106 but want to make it into something to truly be proud of, something that's a joy to drive and a bit of a beast. A mate of mine suggested getting a GTi equivalent that'll fit and then going from there. First of all, I want to upgrade the brakes and suspension then get onto the engine but before that, I want to find out if you guys had any suggestions on any route to take.
 

MasterAuron

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379bhp 359lbft
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Mk1 Focus RS
Yes the best advice anyone can give you is to start with something that has more potential in the first place. Actually buy a 106 GTI. They are quick (ish) to start with and excellent handling cars.
 

MasterAuron

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Oh well you never said that :amuse: A proper supercharged GTi done well would still be "sleeper" though if you leave the bodywork standard as they're not particularily powerful or quick as standard. Plus they're a much much nicer looking shell and much better handling to being with.

What's your budget?
 

MasterAuron

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You'll get no sleeper with £2k. Firstly, you'll need the car off the road. You'll never build a proper monster if the car has to be running every day. Basically if you want to keep that shell, a good starting point would be to fit all of the GTi stuff. Brakes, rear beam, suspension, engine. But on such a small budget you're just wasting time and money.

Building proper sleepers usually costs more than starting with the better car to begin with. Also, insurance for a conversion will be higher than that of an actual GTi. I will re-iterate, unless you have more than pennies to spend, start off with a GTi or something with more potential. A supercharged GTi with 300 ponies and a quarter mile in the 12's is still VERY much sleeper imo.
 

CrazyCornerStone

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Peugeot 106 1.0
2k is what I'm starting with. I'm going to be doing this over a few years as a project as I love my pug. I don't drive it because I have another car, one of the main reasons I decided to improve it. It was just meant to be something of a testament to how well it has served me whilst I've had it :bigsmile:
 

MasterAuron

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Mk1 Focus RS
Good good and fair enough. If it's going to be a second car the world is your oyster :bigsmile: These things are about 900kgs to start with I think, so you're looking at a good power/weight whatever you do.

Whatever engine you put in it, that's a long way off yet. Imo you want to start with the chassis and shell. Strip the lot. Strip the whole of the underneath, grind away/cut out and repair any rust and underseal the whole lot. Refurb and replace the suspension next. GTi rear beam so you have discs and not drums. Front brakes 4-pots from larger car, good pads and grooved discs all round. Add Coilovers into the mix and you've got a good basic handling setup. You're probably looking at £800-£900 if you use decent collies. You could go a lot further though but this is the minimum you'll want to run a powerful engine.
 
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CrazyCornerStone

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Peugeot 106 1.0
Thanks for the help. This will help a lot putting together a plan for what I hope the finished item will be like, still got a long way to go before I start though.
 

MasterAuron

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No worries. Once you start, though, get a project thread up. Be nice for people (myself included) to see the progress and learn along with you if you get me.
 

HDi fun

TC ModFather
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Buckinghamshire UK
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Passat 2.0 TDi
Get a GTi and strip off the bodywork adornments. Instant sleeper.

My 406 is a GTX HDi model and could be a 2.0 HDi 90 to look at. It's the 2.2 HDi 16 valve with a custom performance remap, and dishes out about 320lbft of torque and 190 plus bhp.

Forget any 'for a diesel' qualifications, it's lively by any standards, especially in third and fourth gears. Even the 0-60 is bearable and that's one thing diesels don't do especially well.

I like the anonymity it affords me.
 

turbonutter69

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Alone in the dark.
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Insignia SRI.
Get a GTi and strip off the bodywork adornments. Instant sleeper.

My 406 is a GTX HDi model and could be a 2.0 HDi 90 to look at. It's the 2.2 HDi 16 valve with a custom performance remap, and dishes out about 320lbft of torque and 190 plus bhp.

Forget any 'for a diesel' qualifications, it's lively by any standards, especially in third and fourth gears. Even the 0-60 is bearable and that's one thing diesels don't do especially well.

I like the anonymity it affords me.

Guess what Hdi?
I agree with you on this one. :amazed:
 
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