BMW 330D Vs 328i

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Granted for the money the remapped 330d would be cheaper. But the 328's can be tuned to stupid powers.
I saw one with a supercharger bolted to it. It had double the power and was running standard internals. Fair enough it may be a more expensive route but a properly tuned 328 will kill the diesel.
 
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turbonutter69 said:
Granted for the money the remapped 330d would be cheaper. But the 328's can be tuned to stupid powers.
I saw one with a supercharger bolted to it. It had double the power and was running standard internals. Fair enough it may be a more expensive route but a properly tuned 328 will kill the diesel.
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this is a daft statement!!! a properly tuned diesel would compete with a properly tuned 328!! it would just depend on who had the best knowledge or most money!!
 
Don't agree sorry.
The point being is that the 328 can handle stupid amount of power on standard internals.
Infact the 328 is easier to get big bhp from than the M3.;)
 
HDi fun said:
330d with nothing more than a remap will deliver better performance than any 328i.
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How about 330d without the turbo? Then that's a level playing field.

Fact is, diesels need a turbo to be competetive with N/A petrols. Plus, it's still a derv :embarrest:

As TN has said, supercharge or turbo a 328i and it becomes an entirely different matter.
 
MasterAuron said:
How about 330d without the turbo? Then that's a level playing field.

Fact is, diesels need a turbo to be competetive with N/A petrols. Plus, it's still a derv :embarrest:

As TN has said, supercharge or turbo a 328i and it becomes an entirely different matter.
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Nope, I'm fed up with that old argument now. You cannot buy a natasp 330d any more than you can buy a turbocharged 330i.

The 330i and 330d are similarly priced so in my opinion that's a reasonable comparison.

And turbocharging a 330i costs far more than a remapping a 330d.
 
a6george said:
out of curiosity what power do they both deliver, and by power I mean torque as its torque that moves a mass not bhp.
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It is indeed and thankyou for saying so.

The E46 330d (204bhp) is worth 302lbft standard and remaps to 368lbft.

The E46 330i is 221lbft standard and remaps to 240lbft.

And those are the reasons I'd take a 330d over a 330i without hesitation.

BHP, if you're bothered, is thus:

E46 330i is 231bhp standard and remapped tune offers 250bhp

E46 330d (204bhp) is, strangely enough 204bhp and remaps to 265bhp.

So even for the petrolheads the derv wins the bhp contest as well.
 
HDi fun said:
Nope, I'm fed up with that old argument now. You cannot buy a natasp 330d any more than you can buy a turbocharged 330i.

The 330i and 330d are similarly priced so in my opinion that's a reasonable comparison.

And turbocharging a 330i costs far more than a remapping a 330d.
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For a comparison it has to be engine size and aspiration not price imo.
 
turbonutter69 said:
For a comparison it has to be engine size and aspiration not price imo.
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That's absolutely fine - each to their own. Just remember I'm always right and will beat you about the head mercilessly with my handbag until you cave in and agree with me. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously though, I'm not so bothered about bhp regardless of price (can't afford to be, either, at the moment) and that's why I take the £ for £ approach because it means more to me in my protected little world of standard cars.

Further, as you know of me, I'm not really into extensive modifications which is why I take the option to compare standard production cars. Although what I really do is contrast them, I suppose.
 
MasterAuron said:
Agreed. Fiat Multipla's are around £18k new. The new Clio RS 200 is also around £18k new. How do you compare those?

It's all very well being right, but you have to actually be right for it to work :p
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You can't, and you know this, too. I don't understand the question. Or, I do, but not the reasons why you've asked it?

A Clio RS200 is bought for very different reasons than those for which a Fiat Multipla is bought, despite the nearly identical price tags.

Is there a Multipla RS200 on the market?

Is there a seven seater Clio?

But I'll compare/contrast them for your sole benefit, even though it's a ridiculous exercise:

The Fiat has seven seats. The Clio hasn't.

The Renault is very quick. The Fiat isn't.

Does this help?

At least the 330i and 330d are otherwise identical apart from the fuels and engines that propel them. The 330i/330d question is a more obvious one which probably enters the minds of most prospective purchasers.

Not many prospective Clio RS200 buyers would be swayed by a Fiat Multipla and buy it in preference. And vice versa. Neither entices me to be honest.
 
HDi fun said:
I can offer specialist handbagging at a supplementary cost.
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can i ask a silly question but when you say 328i which model do you mean as i have a e46 and was told its not a good engine to tune????? even tho i love my 328i to bits
 
bum as i was trying to find a tuning guild for a 328i e46, as i dont would to go down the super charging route yet, but i would like one of the 3 series diesel but cant afford one at the moment
 
if i had the money i would go for the 330d over the petrol 330i. just been well impressed with the 325tds, (newer bmw diesels are impressive) so i know this is an old car but, still would take it over many newer diesels. drove a ford ranger with a 3 litre tdci engine and the turbo lag was immense.
 
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Well, in that respect I would have to disagree, I'd like it even more if it were avaliable in a manual. I'm sure BMW could have done it if they could be bothered.
 
jarrus said:
Well, in that respect I would have to disagree, I'd like it even more if it were avaliable in a manual. I'm sure BMW could have done it if they could be bothered.
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I know you disagree, but that's only personal likes and dislikes. We both like and respect derv power for the way it drives. That, too, is only personal preference.

BMW's argument for the auto only option is that the torque at the flywheel is so high that they didn't have a manual box available which could take the bashing. A bit of a weak argument, in my opinion, but I think the Steptronic 'box suits the car well, all the same.

Price-wise the 535d is a bargain, a 530d with the auto option brings the price up to nearly that of the 535d. They slipped up there, big time.

Anyway - what is it that attracts you to manual transmission? This is not a flippant question, I'm just curious.

I like decent automatics. I like them as much as I despise crap ones. But I also despise crap manuals and crap cars in general.

With over 400lbft on tap the auto is not likely to rein you in very much, if at all.

I've been driving two pedal cars for years. Not exclusively, I've always used manuals alongside but I'll always take the easy option if I have a choice. Of course, this has to be considered. I wouldn't, for example, take an automatic Polo over a manual 535i.
 
I don't dislike autos, but on that kind of car I would prefer a Manual, if it was a 735d then an auto would be more acceptable.

I just like the involvement that a manual gives you, I suppose you could say it could make things a bit more difficult when driving quickly but I like the challenge, plus I'm only 22 years old (22 yesterday infact) so I'm not ready to trade in my boots for a pair of slippers either....
 
jarrus said:
I don't dislike autos, but on that kind of car I would prefer a Manual, if it was a 735d then an auto would be more acceptable.

I just like the involvement that a manual gives you, I suppose you could say it could make things a bit more difficult when driving quickly but I like the challenge, plus I'm only 22 years old (22 yesterday infact) so I'm not ready to trade in my boots for a pair of slippers either....
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Well Happy belated Birthday greetings there Jarrus :)
 
MasterAuron said:
How about 330d without the turbo? Then that's a level playing field.

Fact is, diesels need a turbo to be competetive with N/A petrols. Plus, it's still a derv :embarrest:

As TN has said, supercharge or turbo a 328i and it becomes an entirely different matter.
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What about having the 328i with the same duration and lift cams as the diesel then? Surely then it's fair?
 
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