206 Dilemma

Pixel

Pixel

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Swansea, Wales
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Ford Fiesta Zetec-S
Hey guys,

You lot look like you know your stuff so maybe you can help me with a little choice I have to make. Im trying to decide between a 206 1.6 petrol which has 110bhp and a 206 2.0 HDi which only has 90 but I can ECU Remap the 2.0 to get me 125bhp, is it worth the £300 cost? or Should I just get the 1.6 and keep it standard!

I think the 2.0 are cheaper to buy but they are more on insurance, I guess both cars have good and bad points (financially speaking) but I cant decide between the two. Hopefully we can discuss this and then I can choose :D

Thanks,

Pixel.
 
I would personally go with the Diesel. It will be cheaper to run long term and hold its value better. The insurers don't seem to mind remaps on a Diesel but as soon as you start remapping petrol the premiums go right up! You'll love the Torque that comes from the Diesel.
 
Remaps are undetectable so you don't tell the insurance either way.

The Diesel is looking tempting and if I did remap it then It would be faster than the 1.6, cheaper to run, hold its value better (as you stated), but I would be paying £300 more on insurance...

I'm paying £500 for my fiesta, the 1.6 is £800 and the 2.0 is £1,100.

My main concern is, paying £300 to get the diesel fast when the 1.6 petrol is faster as standard? Are there other speed mods that are cheap and are most effective on diesels? This could persuade me to choose the diesel.

Pixel.
 
The insurance difference is only £5 per week and you will probably save more than that in fuel alone. Use our MPG calculator to run some tests and see what the fuel usage will be over a year.

http://www.torquecars.com/tools/index.php

Even though remaps are undetectable I would still advise notification to your insurers. You never know what excuse they will use to refuse to pay out on a claim and should't give them an opportunity.
 
I just redid the quote for the 2.0 and on 3rd Party its £800 but they won’t quote me online for the 1.6 XSi, will they even insure me? It said to phone them but this remind me of when I tried to get a quote on a 206 GTI they said I have to be 21 (lol), if they say I have to be 21 to get the 1.6 XSi, I'm going to have to kick them in the you know where.

Still, this may not matter as the Diesel is looking more and more tempting.

Cheaper to buy, run, insurance is no longer a problem but my only concern now is the speed!

The 1.6 has 110bhp, which is a flying machine, the diesel only has 90? But I can remap it to 125 but that’s going to cost me £300! And even after all that it’s probably the same speed as the 1.6 so it makes me wonder why don't I just buy the 1.6 and keep it standard?

Do you know of any other speed modifications that are cheap(ish) and work the best with diesels? If I get the diesel, I want to know that I can tune it nicely! I’ve been told diesels can handle power better so tuning them is easier, cheaper and gives better results.
 
If you drive both you will appreciate the immense torque from low revs in the Diesel. Unless you rev the petrol hard you will not be unleashing the same sort of power levels.

Test drive both and see what you think. If I got the diesel I would drive round in standard form for 6 months and then remap.

There are some turbo mods that you can do on diesels and there are even some Diesel Dump Valves coming onto the market. A panel air filter will also help give you some more power. Exhausts on Diesels are usually more than adequate so there is little to be gained looking into sports exhausts.

I've also heard some talk of high flow particulate filters on diesels. Although its a new area there are already quite a few options but nothing will come close to the power gains of a REMAP.
 
I think I will get the 2.0 HDi and remap it.

Why would you wait 6 months?

Apart from the remap, anything else I should consider getting that would increase performance?

Would you recommend lowering the car for better turning?

If so, 40 or 60? I think 80 is too much (mm).

I was also considering an exhaust system for better fuel economy, engine noise (but nothing stupid, I hate cars that just sound stupid) and off course, a twin exhaust would just look sexy!
 
A twin exhaust would look sexy! I only usually recommend going 30-35mm lower but I think diesels tend to have a higher ride level than most cars so you'd probably get away with more than that.
 
Good point!

Heres the exhaust I wouldn't mind, my mate got it for £200, apparently its give better fuel economy, extra power (a couple of bhp, obviously not much) and has a nice realistic noise to it!

http://i11.tinypic.com/63i13ye.jpg

Also, I guess I could lower the car 40mm but maybe 60mm? hmmm...
 
I think my post got truncated or something. :oops:

Its like getting all your toys at once. If you drive round for 6 months you'll enjoy your new car then when its remapped you'll effectively have a new car again! You will then appreciate the extra power on tap and really see how much better it is over the standard one.
 
I understand but im very inpatient!

I think the 2.0 as standard will be fast but knowing that I could get so much more for only £300? The temptation would be too much!

Plus the fuel I would save? Over 6 months of burning fuel when I dont have to would cost me money.

...on yeah and that global warming thing... lol
 
haha!

I might just do that, I wont have the £300 to spend right away anyway!

Id be getting the 206 on Finance.

Plus you'd likely have to book the Remap!
 
Should've bought the GTI anyway. If you're not old enough for one then do when you are cos the torque and the power from these is purely animalistic! Sex on wheel is it!? Yeah it is!!
 
The particulate filters that are available for diesels are, at the moment rubbish. As a Peugeot specialist, I have seen the so called 'development' that Peugeot themselves have put into these types of filters and I would advise anyone to stay away from them. Peugeot would have had to do a recall on over 10000 cars if they had installed them so I would be very careful what you buy if you do go for one. After Market solutions may be a better option, but there may be a problem with the filters marrying up properly with the system Peugeopt have in place at the moment. A GTi180 on the other hand, well thats another story.
 
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