Peugeot GTI 180

SHANNCON

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Location
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
Car
Jaguar XF 2013
My wifes car is a Peugeot GTI 180 and is 5 years old, with only. 15,400 KMS on the clock.

I have 2 , unrelated?, problems.

1. The air conditioning fan has stopped and I have been advise that it will cost a total of $640 to replace it. Should this happen after such a short distance? (Accepted it is 5 years old)
2. Under warranty, the front discs were replaced due to them being warped. This was at 10,000kms and under warranty. Now, after 15,000kms the discs need to be replaced due to the same problem. Since the car is out of warranty I have to pay for the replacement.
This sounds as though there may be another problem ( sticking rotors etc. etc.)

Should I pay for the repairs, or, should Peugeot investigate why there are these problems?

All in all, the cost for both items will be $1,600 ad once this is paid any claims will be refuted.

Immediate comments are needed since the car has to be fixed.
 
Has it ever been in an accident? I had a Vectra company car and someone decided to hit my front nearside. It was expertly repaired by Vx themselves and driving it you couldn't tell. But after that it used to warp the front discs every 10000 miles or so. As it was a company car I never bothered getting it diagnosed, I just got the discs changed each time.
 
We have had the car since new and there has never been an accident with it.
The Peugeot dealer says it may have been driven through a puddle whilst the discs were hot and this could have caused the problem. Surely they are more substantially designed than this?
 
I would get a second opinion from a non franchised garage, dealers are known for overcharging and being too busy to investigate niggly faults.

Warping can be caused by sudden cooling of metal but I would have thought it would need to be pretty hot to cause this. It's worth jacking up the car and just checking that each wheel is spinning freely.

Were the disks of the vented/grooved or drilled variety? Drilled and grooved discs are prone to warping.

I would be tempted to just use a good quality aftermarket performance brake disc instead of the standard ones.
 
My wife only uses the car to drive to school each day. The car is never driven excessively (That's impossible in the middle of Sydney).It's only about 4kms each way. I can't imagine should a short drive, each day, being the cause.

The car is a "tuned" version of the 206 and the brakes are an upgrade to the standard brakes. I will get a second opinion since we, also, had to replace both front tyres after 12,000 kms - not miles.
 
just under $1k for discs and pads - think your getting taken to the cleaners there mate.

i would be looking at the caliper piston sticking perhaps, discs need alot of heat to warp and i doubt your wifes doing this in 4km unless shes sitting with her foot on the brake the whole time
 
I think I could get the parts replaced for less, but, imported European parts are hellishly expensive in Australia.

It, definitely, needs a closer look, rather than just replacement. If not the same thing will happen again in another 5,000kms. Thanks for all the comments.
 
Sitting at traffic lights, stationary traffic with a foot on the brakes can warp them, as a hot disc will cool at a different rate where the pads are in contact with it.
 
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She does the right thing - puts the handbrake on - puts the car in neutral and waits.

As I said, she only drives 4 kms per day. Not much chance of red hot brakes in that short distance.
 
That's the strange thing. I have had it in to Peugeot, today, to investigate the problem.

The first replacement was at 7,500kms and was both of the front discs.

Today, they claim it is the front left and the rear left (kerbside) that are warped after a further 7,500kms.

Peugeot promised to give me an answer by tomorrow as to what is wrong and what they are prepared to do.
 
rear discs warping ? now unless the handbrake is on - in which there would be warning lights and buzzers going i cant see that and only on one side :s i was going to suggest something like a valve on the MC sticking but that would have meant opposites sticking not the same side.
 
Hopefully, I'll let you know tomorrow. Although I doubt whether these "Main" Dealer Service outlets really know.

A few years ago I had a problem with my Merc suddenly stopping and refusing to start. Mercedes had no idea. I called my local NRMA (AA, RAC,AAA) and they looked at it. The technician stuck a tube in the petrol filler and listened whilst I turned the motor over. He diagnosed a faulty fuel pump since he couldn't hear it pumping. Based on that Mercedes checked the fuel pump and, would you believe, there was the fault.

A good, genuine mechanic is worth a lot!
 
Was about to say something like that,

I would have said sticking calipers myself, has the brake fluid been changed since you've bought it? as brake fluid takes on water during it's life and becomes more prone to "boiling" so can make the brakes fade and heat up a lot quicker.

I'd say get your brake fluid changed ASAP then by yourself some Brembo aftermarket discs they shouldn't cost the earth then see how you get on,
I'd also add that in Sydney that the climate is far warmer than in France or most of europe so I dare say a more strict maintenance schedule so be adhered to, best thing to do is find a local Peugeot specialist and let them take a look at it, they will most likely know more about it than any main dealer who are just after your money
 
The car has been fixed. Peugeot would not admit to any problems, but, they agreed to supply 4 new discs,free of charge. Also, the main dealer agreed to pay the labour costs as long as I paid for 4 sets of brake pads. I had no problem with that.

Unfortunately, the reason for the problem is still a mystery. I just hope we don't have the same problems in 7,500 more kms. The car feels so much smoother now. Thanks for the comments!
 

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