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your seriously underrated cars thoughts?

Discussion in 'General car Chat' started by aston, 27 March 2012.

  1. aston

    aston The Torque Meister

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    1,353
    From:
    Near Salisbury, Wiltshire
    Car:
    VOLVO,MERC,VW
    What cars do you believe are seriously underrated?, I'll kick off with......
    Nissan Primera eGT,GT and Sport+
    Volvo turbo's
    Any manual PUG 205
     
  2. t5frankie

    t5frankie Torque Junkie

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    160
    From:
    wellingborough
    Car:
    volvo v70r 2wd man.
    i think people get a massive shock when i blow them away in my volvo, not really come up against anything on the road that has kept up to be honest not with 353lb ft torque and 311bhp @1.3 bar boost can run at 1.5 bar if i wanted. midrange acceleration is awesome on these motors 60-100 in 6 secs
     
  3. SLEEPER

    SLEEPER Pro Tuner

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    same with a stagea although the average bod thinks they are volvos anyway

    there is something about having a big estate in q mode
     
  4. RobBentley

    RobBentley The Torque Meister

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    1,470
    From:
    Kent, UK
    Car:
    Audi RS6 C6 Saloon
    Good feeling isn't it :)
     
  5. SLEEPER

    SLEEPER Pro Tuner

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    I dont want to start a "fight" but if you cant find anything faster than 311bhp (regardless of torque) you havnt been looking much

    Id say that applies to RS4s as well

    (lights touchpaper and retires discretely )
     
  6. t5frankie

    t5frankie Torque Junkie

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    160
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    wellingborough
    Car:
    volvo v70r 2wd man.
    Anything with that sort of power is a supercar and there isn't many of them on the road when you are, and even if you saw a proper motor usually they ain't interested in having a play anyway, I mentioned torque first as it has loads look up an rs4's torque figures, my car is only a 2.3, we are talking about underated cars and an rs4 is well known for being a monster.
     
  7. Prince

    Prince Torque King

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    6,309
    From:
    Northampton, England
    Car:
    BMW E36 318is Coupe
    What are the standard figures? What's the power to weight ratio as well?
     
  8. t5frankie

    t5frankie Torque Junkie

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    From:
    wellingborough
    Car:
    volvo v70r 2wd man.
    Standard its 247 bhp 350 nms torque and weighs 1500 kgs, so 165 bhp per tonne 0-60 6.8 secs and 155mph so mine is about 210 bhp per tonne at the moment, big plans for next year though big Garrett turbo and forged engine
     
  9. RobBentley

    RobBentley The Torque Meister

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    1,470
    From:
    Kent, UK
    Car:
    Audi RS6 C6 Saloon
    I can vouch for the RS4 with regards to torque as I had one before I changed to a C63 AMG. It's not mega torquey... the power is all above 5500rpm, you have to rev that 4.2 FSi V8 to get the best from it.
     
  10. MasterAuron

    MasterAuron Very Senior Member

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    379bhp 359lbft
    Car:
    Mk1 Focus RS
    I agree, my RS is more powerful and lighter and no doubt quicker than your T5 but I have come across quicker things like a 450hp Evo 6, and a turbo'd astra gte that was silly quick.
     
  11. t5frankie

    t5frankie Torque Junkie

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    From:
    wellingborough
    Car:
    volvo v70r 2wd man.
    I have mates with t5's or r's with over 450bhp they are serious machines and regularly do track days
     
  12. aston

    aston The Torque Meister

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    From:
    Near Salisbury, Wiltshire
    Car:
    VOLVO,MERC,VW
    Do those Volvos go around corners well. As mine had stupid torque steer?
    "A good handling car simply goes where you point it.”
    Contrary to popular belief I think sheer speed have very little say on the grand scheme of things. Because once you know what 0-100mph in less than seven seconds feels like, most people guess would choose a fun car over a fast one every time. I would
     
    Last edited: 28 March 2012
  13. Loz

    Loz Torque King

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    From:
    Wolverhampton, U.K.
    Car:
    MX-5
    I'd like to nominate the MGZS 180 as an underrated car. It's got a very competent chassis & even though the V6 'only' 180bhp (ish) it's plenty quick enough to have fun on the road. :p

    Flammin' thirsty though! :lol:
     
  14. t5frankie

    t5frankie Torque Junkie

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    160
    From:
    wellingborough
    Car:
    volvo v70r 2wd man.
    My v70r has limited slip diff and has better suspension than a normal t5 and believe me it can goes round corners just got to feather the throttle as will spin the wheels for a long way if you plant your foot too early
     
  15. Yugguy

    Yugguy Torque King

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    Rugby (expat Preston lad)
    Car:
    Merc C220Cdi Elegan
    Well first off loz is spot on. Zs 180 was an epic feat of engineering and handled amazingly.

    Second I know what t5frankie means, yes, there are cars with more power/torque than his but how often do you come across them?

    Bit like my old 172, there weren't that many cars that could go round corners like it did. Plenty that were faster 0-60 but not many that could keep up in the twisty bits.
     
  16. aston

    aston The Torque Meister

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    From:
    Near Salisbury, Wiltshire
    Car:
    VOLVO,MERC,VW
    Yes I agree, anyone can drive fast in in a fast car down a straight road but it's the corners where the smiles are induced, back in the day 911's would leave the 924 turbo's for dust but once they came to the corners the 924's would annihilate the 911.......apparently And that brings me to my other underrated car. The 924S..
     
  17. herb

    herb modherbrator Moderator

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    4,055
    From:
    west midlands
    Car:
    Seat Leon Cupra
    ill nominate the renault 21 turbo[​IMG]
     
  18. LPMorgan

    LPMorgan Road Burner

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    From:
    leicester, england
    Car:
    none at the moment
    i nominate a ford capri 3.2 v6 lol
     
  19. T9 man

    T9 man TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    20,133
    From:
    London, UK
    Car:
    Saab 9-3SS T9
    I remember these, quite a car in their day I believe ;)
     
  20. HDi fun

    HDi fun TC ModFather

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    15,384
    From:
    Buckinghamshire UK
    Car:
    Passat 2.0 TDi
    Renault 21 Turbo. Regardless of eveyone's witting on about the Peugeot 405's prodigious handling and grip La Regie was superior in my hands.
     
  21. turbonutter69

    turbonutter69 TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    From:
    Alone in the dark.
    Car:
    Insignia SRI.
    Where'd you find that seeing as Ford never put a 3.2 in the Capri. :blink:

     
  22. LPMorgan

    LPMorgan Road Burner

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    leicester, england
    Car:
    none at the moment
    i'm pretty sure they did unless is was the 3.0 v6 mkII, i almost bought one to fix and rebuild it.
     
    Last edited: 31 March 2012
  23. turbonutter69

    turbonutter69 TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    Alone in the dark.
    Car:
    Insignia SRI.
    Was a 3.0 buddy. ;)
     
  24. HDi fun

    HDi fun TC ModFather

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    15,384
    From:
    Buckinghamshire UK
    Car:
    Passat 2.0 TDi
    It was Ford's Essex V6 engine. Carb fed, circa 140bhp. Not much by today's standards.
     
  25. LPMorgan

    LPMorgan Road Burner

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    leicester, england
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    none at the moment
    it was a nice car! probably underrated when it was released lol
     
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