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What is the best sounding engine you've heard?

Discussion in 'General car Chat' started by obi_waynne, 25 April 2008.

  1. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    For me It has to be the sweet engine note of a 3.0 Alfaromeo GTV (the boxer engine from c.1980)

    Are there any stand out engine sounds that you would rate as your favourite?
     
  2. Prince

    Prince Torque King

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    How about a V8 American muscle...something like a Mustang? They always sound beautiful!
     
  3. HDi fun

    HDi fun TC ModFather

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    I really like the oddball 2.3 litre V5 from Volkswagen. Silky smooth motor with a lovely offbeat howl as revs rise.
     
  4. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    not in a car but sound beautiful when restored.
    A 27 ltr rolls royce V12 96 valve merlin engine. the non supercharged version. have heard a couple of them fired up at various airshows and what a noise. the cadets at dumfries are supposed to be helping rebuild one if they can source the parts.
     
  5. claymore

    claymore The Torque Meister

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    5 cylinder for me aswell, fiat 20valve but then i'm bias
     
  6. HDi fun

    HDi fun TC ModFather

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    I also quite like Napier's 18 cylinder (36 piston) 2 stroke Deltic unit which was used to great effect in the BR Class 55 diesel electric locomotive.

    These had two of these monsters on board.
     
  7. StevieDB9

    StevieDB9 Road Burner

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    18 cylinder 36 piston? how does that work?
     
  8. HDi fun

    HDi fun TC ModFather

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    That's a very reasonable question. Before going further I'll also add that it has 3 crankshafts. Use the link below to see and animation of a Deltic. Incidentally they don't spin round like the animation shows.

    http://rowla.dyndns.org/justin/img/piston_deltic320.mpg
     
  9. sbtUK

    sbtUK Torque Junkie

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    Hemi hemi hemi hemi hemi Hemi hemi hemi hemi hemi Hemi hemi hemi hemi hemi Hemi hemi hemi hemi hemi :D :D :D :D :D :D

    Wait? What am I on about? My favourite engine sound is a 3 pot diesel. No question.
     
  10. StevieDB9

    StevieDB9 Road Burner

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    My god that looks complicated, but ingenious. Must have been a nightmare designing and building that thing, can you imagine trying to change the spark plugs in a service!!!:lol:

    What size of engine is this thing anyway, in terms of displacement and actual physical size, i mean, i doubt it would fit under the bonnet of my polo!

    Talking of novel engines, and no-one mention W4NKEL:embarrest:, anyone seen these VCR (variable compression) engines.

    http://www.fs.isy.liu.se/Lab/SVC/index.html
     
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  11. StevieDB9

    StevieDB9 Road Burner

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    where my message has been censored i was refering to the engine in the mazda rx8
     
  12. HDi fun

    HDi fun TC ModFather

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    Diesel engines don't have spark plugs.

    Displacement is about 90 litres so no, it won't fit in the Polo as it's considerably bigger and heavier than the whole car.

    They were also common in marine applications becuase of the relatively high performance/weight ratio and for their ability to rev much higher than competitive 4 stroke engines.

    By high we're talking about 1400rpm, whereas most low-medium speed diesels are spun out at 900rpm.
     
  13. HDi fun

    HDi fun TC ModFather

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    If you want some really silly stuff - here's the specs for a Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C turbocharged two-stroke diesel engine.

    It is available in 6 through 14 cylinder versions, all are inline engines. These engines were designed primarily for very large container ships. Ship owners like a single engine/single propeller design and the new generation of larger container ships needed a bigger engine to propel them.

    The cylinder bore is just under 38" and the stroke is just over 98". Each cylinder displaces 111,143 cubic inches (1820 liters) and produces 7780 horsepower. Total displacement comes out to 1,556,002 cubic inches (25,480 liters) for the fourteen cylinder version.
    Some facts on the 14 cylinder version:
    Total engine weight: 2300 tons (The crankshaft alone weighs 300 tons.)
    Length: 89 feet
    Height: 44 feet
    Maximum power: 108,920 hp at 102 rpm
    Maximum torque: 5,608,312 lb/ft at 102rpm
     
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  14. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    stevit your last message was about a variable compression engine designed by saab / gm. merc have also been playing around with this.
    http://www.torquecars.com/forums/f8/diesotto-1745/ thread started a while ago

    the RX7 and 8 use a rotary engine on more commonly known as a w.ankel engine. this is nothing to do with Variable compression. currently no road cars use this technology due to lots of problems. but merc hope to have their engine, in a 1.8 form, to power their S class in the future
     
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  15. Hansi

    Hansi Track Warrior

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    That is definetly a Hemi for me so if I'll just quote sbtUK:

    Hemi hemi hemi hemi hemi Hemi hemi hemi hemi hemi Hemi hemi hemi hemi hemi Hemi hemi hemi hemi hemi :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
    :blink1:
     
  16. StevieDB9

    StevieDB9 Road Burner

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    HDi: didnt realise we were talking diesel here! Yeah, i know no spark plugs but my god, those engines your talking about sound mental!

    Just looked up that engine you were on about. That things nuts! It definately wouldnt fit in the car, nor the house, maybe not even the village. Wouldnt like to see the fuel bill.

    Pgarner: yeah, read up about merc/saab playing about with these engines, anyone think they'll take off? Infact, I dont know, are these engines in common production?
     
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  17. HDi fun

    HDi fun TC ModFather

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    The Class 55 Deltics are no longer in BR service, having been withdrawn around 1980 but there are nutty railway club types who collectively own 1 or 2 and run 'em on private track. The Napier deltic engines are almost certainly still in marine use although the engines are no longer in production.

    As for the 14 cylinder,25,000 litre Sulzers, these are built in situ inside huge ships and servicing work is carried out from the inside of the engine. These are still in use day in day out. Strangely the're very fuel efficent too, far more so than a road diesel. I suppose at 102rpm there's not a lot of friction compared to 5000rpm.

    It's the five and a half million lbft torque that's the really silly number. As if 100,000 bhp is tight either.........

    These are truly monumental engines, you can't really comapre them to car engines.

    Another interesting car is 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang' from the film of the same name. (author Ian Fleming, yes - the James Bond man!)

    Despite it's cultured and characterful image I'm led to believe that it was powered with a 23 litre Maybach aero engine.

    As such, it probably went very nicely indeed.
     
  18. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    christ id hate to see the service bill for one of them i had to walk around the inside of the engine for a couple of hours to make sure everything was ok.
    at least you win bragging right on both power and torque ( the merlin engines only produced a max of 1700bhp through supercharging )

    steve not that i know off then engines are having lots of problems main one being that there has to be multiple maps for every compression. as well as the bearing that alters the compression has to be strong enough to lock when the bang happens. while still being able to move freely to adjust compression as needed.
     
  19. StevieDB9

    StevieDB9 Road Burner

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    It's the five and a half million lbft torque that's the really silly number. As if 100,000 bhp is tight either.........

    :amazed: thats enough torque to stop the earth rotating and start it again in the opposite direction
     
  20. HDi fun

    HDi fun TC ModFather

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    Maybe not quite enough to do that. I like the idea of shoving a couple of computer actuated power levers fowards and unleashing all that rotational force. In a floating vessel that wieghs 80,000lbs.

    That's true command of power.
     
  21. Izo Azlion

    Izo Azlion Road Burner

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    Having now driven one (as of early this week !!! :D:D:D:D:D) and like, being around one quite alot, I have to say its the best sound I've heard.

    In my biased opinion.
     
  22. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Wow - I never thought we'd come up with such an eclectic mix of engine. What a bunch of connoisseurs we are.

    I heard a Maserati on full chat at the weekend - that was nice.

    Anyone heard an F1 car up close? Talk about loud - I had no idea :lol:
     
  23. Shao

    Shao Torque Junkie

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    Impreza turbo always sounds lovely in the rallying, and sticking on F1 when the safety car (Merc) is out that sounds lovely!
     
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  24. pgarner

    pgarner TC ModFather Moderator

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    which ones the new V8s or the old V10

    never heard ether close up
     
  25. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    I think it was the V10 - a real scream of an engine howl. I suppose most retired F1 drivers are deaf. I SAID MOST RETIRED F1 DRIVERS ARE DEAF!
     
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