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Ice install in a Secma, advice needed...

Discussion in 'ICE installs' started by PeterPan, 8 April 2014.

  1. PeterPan

    PeterPan Torque Junkie

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    From:
    Northwich Uk
    Car:
    SECMA QT-R1000
    Hello guys,

    My ICE knowledge is somewhat limited beyond the basics and I hoping that some sage wisdom may come my way...

    The car in question is TINY and so big sounds are not necessary, however...

    I installed a head unit and comment speakers (there car comes with no stereo as standard) anyway...

    The alpine head unit is load enough from its built in amp and 4x50w output, the components are just about loud enough but lacking bass.

    I want to add more bass, and hopefully the components will perform better then if they are not having to handle the low notes.

    What I am thinking to do is to add a small passive bass tube inbetween the footwwells and power it with a bridged 2x50w output from the head unit.

    As far as I can understand, this will work but I will need to use passive crossovers between the head unit and the speakers.

    So my outputs will be as follows:
    *Front Left output - passive crosser - component speaker
    *Front right output - passive crossover - component speaker
    *L&R rear channels bridged - passive crossover - bass tube

    Will this work ok?
    Is this the best solution?

    Any other suggestions welcome...
     
  2. T9 man

    T9 man TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    20,369
    From:
    London, UK
    Car:
    Saab 9-3SS T9
    Well unless the Alpine head unit states quite clearly that you can bridge the rear outputs then DON'T do it.

    Guess work causes electronics to have a very short life!

    I would just buy an active subwoofer having both the options of an LFE and high power input, that way you have the best of both worlds connectivity wise.

    You will only need to run a decent 12volt supply from the battery, a decent earth and a link for the remote switch on for the subwoofer from either the remote aerial connection on the head unit or the "Acc" on the ignition switch.
     
  3. PeterPan

    PeterPan Torque Junkie

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    127
    From:
    Northwich Uk
    Car:
    SECMA QT-R1000
    Thank you fr your reply,

    Don't I need crossovers in the working somewhere to sort out what signal range goes to which speakers?
     
  4. T9 man

    T9 man TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    From:
    London, UK
    Car:
    Saab 9-3SS T9
    Yes buddy but as you see above, you already mentioned this. I would suggest the front outputs of the head unit go through a passive crossover to supply a midrange in the front doors and a decent tweeter on the dashboard or up on the A pillar directed towards you off course. If you were using a really good head unit powering multiple amplifiers then the choice of crossover in my opinion would be an active one and not a passive one.
     
  5. PeterPan

    PeterPan Torque Junkie

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    127
    From:
    Northwich Uk
    Car:
    SECMA QT-R1000
    Thank you.

    Perhaps what I should have posted was something like this...
    "I want a bit more bass and volume, I currently have XYZ, suggestions please"
     
  6. T9 man

    T9 man TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    20,369
    From:
    London, UK
    Car:
    Saab 9-3SS T9
    Your welcome buddy and good luck with the installation.
    Don't forget to post up some photos when your done ;)
     
  7. turbonutter69

    turbonutter69 TC ModFather Moderator

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    From:
    Alone in the dark.
    Car:
    Insignia SRI.
    Nooooooooo don't use any tweeters.
    Use some decent mid range speakers only, straight off the head unit.
    If you want to add bass, i'd look into installing a small 8 inch sub in the boot somewhere.
    You'd be able to find a small enough enclosure and a decent small amp will screw to that.
    Then you just need to run some cables. ;)
     
  8. T9 man

    T9 man TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    Car:
    Saab 9-3SS T9
    What's wrong with tweeters TN? I had all the speakers upgraded in the car including the tweeters. I had a professional place in London do the full install and I was very happy with the end results.
     
  9. turbonutter69

    turbonutter69 TC ModFather Moderator

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    18,967
    From:
    Alone in the dark.
    Car:
    Insignia SRI.
    Unless you have a hefty sub and amp, decent tweeters will drown out an active sub.
    I had that prob in my Primera.
    It had a 12 inch sub in the boot, I fitted some alpine components and the tweeters completely drowned out the sub.
    I ended up buying 2 12 inch subs and box, with a 1200 watt rms class d amp, just to contend with the tweeters.
    The amp was wired in at 1ohm so it was actually putting out 2400 watts of pure rms bass.
     
    Last edited: 9 April 2014
  10. T9 man

    T9 man TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    Understand and thanks TN :)
     
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