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04-02-2011, 12:07 AM
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|  H&r lowering kit
Got a booking to fit my H&R lowering kit on saturday, Think I have got a good price as they are only charging me £80 for labour. Has anyone got any experance with H&R products? and how will lowering the car 30-40mm change the ride/handeling? | 
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09-02-2011, 06:26 AM
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| Re: H&r lowering kit
just make sure that if you are lowering it 40mm then there may be more than a good chance that the wheels will rub on the arches....
the handling should be better and the steering should feel more positive
the ride will depend on the spring rate that you select
H&R do seem to be a reputible brand as (i own a 197 clio and K-tec, a renault tuning company offers H&R coilovers i would imagine theyre good kop haha
hope this helps | |
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09-02-2011, 03:17 PM
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£80 is about the going rate (2 hours of labour). I too have heard good things about H&R from the BMW world. You will feel bumps and imperfections in the road more, and make sure you slow down for speed bumps more as well. On the positive side you will have improved turning and the car will feel better to drive.
Keep us updated!
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09-02-2011, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince  £80 is about the going rate (2 hours of labour). I too have heard good things about H&R from the BMW world. You will feel bumps and imperfections in the road more, and make sure you slow down for speed bumps more as well. On the positive side you will have improved turning and the car will feel better to drive.
Keep us updated! | Definitely slow right down when approaching speed bumps! made this mistake the first time on my setup and I almost put a dent in the roof with my head  | |
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09-02-2011, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by T9 man Definitely slow right down when approaching speed bumps! made this mistake the first time on my setup and I almost put a dent in the roof with my head | Hahaha! When I had my Civic I used to slow down to about 1 mph! I was lowered by 110mm though.  | |
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09-02-2011, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince Hahaha! When I had my Civic I used to slow down to about 1 mph! I was lowered by 110mm though. | 110mm?? that is just........wow haha!! i bet you could trap your foot under the sideskirt haha | |
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10-02-2011, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by clio197MJB 110mm?? that is just........wow haha!! i bet you could trap your foot under the sideskirt haha | I had to be very careful next to kerbs  . Between the arch and the tyre there was not even a mm. Yet it didn't scrape at all. | |
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10-02-2011, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince I had to be very careful next to kerbs . Between the arch and the tyre there was not even a mm. Yet it didn't scrape at all. | Do you have a picture of this by any chance Prince? I want to get the old girl a little lower and need to visualise it a little better | |
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10-02-2011, 03:31 PM
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I doesn't look as low as it actually was because the side skirt was never colour coded and I didn't add front and rear lips. But i'm sure you get the idea. | |
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10-02-2011, 03:45 PM
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WOW! very very nice Prince!  | |
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10-02-2011, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by T9 man WOW! very very nice Prince! | Thanks mate, but it isn't mine anymore! | |
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10-02-2011, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by T9 man Do you have a picture of this by any chance Prince? I want to get the old girl a little lower and need to visualise it a little better | What are you planning to lower it on btw? | |
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10-02-2011, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince What are you planning to lower it on btw? | My Saab 9-3 which is already on coilovers! I feel they could come down a little more as the suspension is so hard, I cannot see the tyres rubbing at all! | |
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10-02-2011, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by T9 man My Saab 9-3 which is already on coilovers! I feel they could come down a little more as the suspension is so hard, I cannot see the tyres rubbing at all! | I am loving those 3 spokes! Very cool. I think you could go a little bit lower. What other suspension work have you had done? | |
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10-02-2011, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince I am loving those 3 spokes! Very cool. I think you could go a little bit lower. What other suspension work have you had done? | Cheers Prince, from a man of your TC stature, much appreciated! all bushes wherever possible have been replace with polybushes, and I have had modified wishbones etc made just for me!
Sorry about the camera angle as it makes the Beast look like it has a couple of dents on the rear quarter, but I can assure you there isn't a mark or a scratch on the old girl Not sure what else to do to bring her down another 10mm or so! | |
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10-02-2011, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by T9 man Cheers Prince, from a man of your TC stature, much appreciated! all bushes wherever possible have been replace with polybushes, and I have had modified wishbones etc made just for me!
Sorry about the camera angle as it makes the Beast look like it has a couple of dents on the rear quarter, but I can assure you there isn't a mark or a scratch on the old girl Not sure what else to do to bring her down another 10mm or so! | Good call on the polybushes. Did you get Powerflex ones? If so, purple or black? Are your coilovers fully adjustable? I.E. Can you adjust the camber and castor?
P.S. The camera angle is fine! I'd love to see this at a National Meet. | |
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10-02-2011, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince Good call on the polybushes. Did you get Powerflex ones? If so, purple or black? Are your coilovers fully adjustable? I.E. Can you adjust the camber and castor?
P.S. The camera angle is fine! I'd love to see this at a National Meet. | Thanks Prince, the polybushes are in fact coloured blue and have been specially made for the 9-3, the coilovers are indeed fully adjustable and practically as low as they will go!
I was showing the old girl off at the Peterborough Modified Nationals on behalf of Torque Cars last year and at the Santa Pod Modified Nationals, as well as the Haynes Classic 100 last year which I am sponsoring this year, along with displaying at the Saab Owners Club of Great Britain Nationals in Bath last year were I won the "Best Saab 9-3" in the country award | |
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10-02-2011, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by T9 man Thanks Prince, the polybushes are in fact coloured blue and have been specially made for the 9-3, the coilovers are indeed fully adjustable and practically as low as they will go!
I was showing the old girl off at the Peterborough Modified Nationals on behalf of Torque Cars last year and at the Santa Pod Modified Nationals, as well as the Haynes Classic 100 last year which I am sponsoring this year, along with displaying at the Saab Owners Club of Great Britain Nationals in Bath last year were I won the "Best Saab 9-3" in the country award | What camber settings have you got? Maybe just a slight bit more camber will allow you to go lower.
The thing I could suggest for the looks is to smooth over the bump strips or colour code them with the door handles. Only change I'd make to be honest. I'm not surprised it won Best Saab 9-3. | |
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10-02-2011, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince What camber settings have you got? Maybe just a slight bit more camber will allow you to go lower.
The thing I could suggest for the looks is to smooth over the bump strips or colour code them with the door handles. Only change I'd make to be honest. I'm not surprised it won Best Saab 9-3. |
Cheers Prince, Not too sure about the camber settings, I had the whole car geometry set up down at Elite Direct based in Rainham in Essex who have this all singing all dancing computerised gizmo.
The bump strips and the door handles will be colour coded in a couple of months time before the first show, and i'm hoping to have the Hirsch genuine Carbon Fibre rear spoiler, side sills and front spoiler finishing strips installed as well. | |
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10-02-2011, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by T9 man Cheers Prince, Not too sure about the camber settings, I had the whole car geometry set up down at Elite Direct based in Rainham in Essex who have this all singing all dancing computerised gizmo.
The bump strips and the door handles will be colour coded in a couple of months time before the first show, and i'm hoping to have the Hirsch genuine Carbon Fibre rear spoiler, side sills and front spoiler finishing strips installed as well. | Can you adjust the camber settings at the top of the strut? Might be worth a little play around.
Plans sound good mate! I'm planning some carbon fibre touches on the Beemer when the time is right. It just costs so much! | |
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10-02-2011, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince Can you adjust the camber settings at the top of the strut? Might be worth a little play around.
Plans sound good mate! I'm planning some carbon fibre touches on the Beemer when the time is right. It just costs so much! | Indeed it does cost so much, £3200 inc vat from Hirsch and I still have to get them fitted  No idea how i'm going to sneak this one past the accountant | |
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10-02-2011, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by T9 man Indeed it does cost so much, £3200 inc vat from Hirsch and I still have to get them fitted No idea how i'm going to sneak this one past the accountant | Haha. Just deny all knowledge!
(We may have hijacked this thread as well! ) | |
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10-02-2011, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince Haha. Just deny all knowledge!
(We may have hijacked this thread as well! ) | Oops! my humble apologies ghettokartel, I get carried away | |
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