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06-05-2011, 11:53 PM
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| | Loyal Member Power tuner Car: Probe 2.5L 24v V6
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| Any spoiler fans? Who likes spoilers, and what type of spoiler do you prefer.
This was my last one
Sprayed up myself from this
Originally fitted to my first Probe a few years back
It's in the garage somewhere now though and that's probably where it'll stay too.
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07-05-2011, 12:48 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? In general I don't like spoilers. I do think they need to match the profile of the boot they are on so if it curves down then the rear wing needs to.
I do quite like your spoiler but to be brutally honest and it is just my opinion I don't think it looks right on a probe. A Cosworth Sierra style wing would probably look more subtle.
I don't get why people put spoilers on hatch backs (the silly ones that sit on the roof!)
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07-05-2011, 12:48 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? I've actually removed mine from my E36! It looks better smooth. Spoilers/wings belong on RWD cars only imo otherwise it's pointless.
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07-05-2011, 01:18 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Yeah, I like that spoiler, it's just not going back on as just doesn't fit my theme anymore.
This is one I quite like. http://www.m-99.co.uk/Car_Bodykits/F.../probe_evo.jpg
They don't really serve any useful purpose, but some look pretty good.
Overall I'm going for the smooth look so not decided if I'm actually going to fit any spoiler yet.
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07-05-2011, 06:21 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Quote:
Originally Posted by MickieH Yeah, I like that spoiler, it's just not going back on as just doesn't fit my theme anymore.
This is one I quite like.
[img] http://www.m-99.co.uk/Car_Bodykits/F.../probe_evo.jpg [img]
They don't really serve any useful purpose, but some look pretty good.
Overall I'm going for the smooth look so not decided if I'm actually going to fit any spoiler yet. | If you want the smooth style then either leave it spoiler-less or go for something subtle. Like a lip spoiler. If you need inspiration think E46 CSL bootlid (as I know you want smoothed panels). |
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07-05-2011, 08:04 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? I like the E46 idea.
Have to do some thinking on this one. |
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09-05-2011, 01:35 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Not a fan of spoilers never have never will tbh |
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09-05-2011, 01:41 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Errrrrr, this isn't a spoiler, unless you are referring to its affect on the car's appearance
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09-05-2011, 05:56 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? I much prefer the boot lid lip version for a rear spoiler! I don't think that there are many cars around (on the street) that can carry off the look to be honest, and some versions of them just look plain silly IMO.
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09-05-2011, 07:27 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? dont like the big huge ones (sorry mickie). like the csl idea of princes tho.
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09-05-2011, 07:32 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? One fringe benefit is that they make the end of the rear of the car very visible for tight parking. |
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09-05-2011, 07:58 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? No, I don't like it anymore either, that's why it's in the garage, and will either get flogged, or end up on the scrap van |
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09-05-2011, 08:01 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Quote:
Originally Posted by old-git Errrrrr, this isn't a spoiler, unless you are referring to its affect on the car's appearance  | It was an appearance mod only, and quite an annoying one too, as you couldn't see anything out of the rear view  plus it rattled a lot |
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09-05-2011, 08:14 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Put it up for sale on Ebay, as someone will be bound to think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread! The money coming in can then be spent elsewhere on your project! |
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10-05-2011, 12:51 AM
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| | Very Senior Member Torque master
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? It depends whether the spoiler is for show or go.
Spoilers do work - you only have to watch F1 to see the difference they can make.
But they will only work if the R & D has been done and often it hsnt been . |
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10-05-2011, 07:53 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Quote:
Originally Posted by SLEEPER It depends whether the spoiler is for show or go.
Spoilers do work - you only have to watch F1 to see the difference they can make.
But they will only work if the R & D has been done and often it hsnt been . |
They are not bloody spoilers!!!!! : -) |
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10-05-2011, 07:58 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Quote:
Originally Posted by old-git They are not bloody spoilers!!!!! : -) | So what are they then? |
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10-05-2011, 08:01 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Quote:
Originally Posted by old-git They are not bloody spoilers!!!!! : -) | May I ask then what the correct terminology is that should be used then for such an appliance please OG?  I have always referred to them as spoilers |
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10-05-2011, 08:43 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Quote:
Originally Posted by MickieH So what are they then?  | Quote:
Originally Posted by T9 man May I ask then what the correct terminology is that should be used then for such an appliance please OG?  I have always referred to them as spoilers  | wings 
and i only learned this through being on here and reading a post or 2 og has made
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10-05-2011, 08:45 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? It's a wing.  Right? |
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10-05-2011, 08:46 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Damn you herb! |
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10-05-2011, 08:48 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Quote:
Originally Posted by MickieH So what are they then?  | F1 cars are covered in various types of wing.
A vehicle wing generates downforce, a spolier doesn't, it just does what it is called. It 'spoils' the airflow thereby reducing any lift being generated by the car's body profile.
I have just read what Wiki has to say about spoilers and wings and they don't know they are talking about either! For example (a quote from Wiki): Most of the cars used in car races and other fast action-packed sports have Wings. This helps the cars reach extreme high speeds in a matter of seconds.
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10-05-2011, 08:54 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Quote:
Originally Posted by old-git Most of the cars used in car races and other fast action-packed sports have Wings. This helps the cars reach extreme high speeds in a matter of seconds. | AWHATTHE!? Isn't this true?? Most boy-racers adopt this policy |
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10-05-2011, 09:06 PM
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Quote:
Originally Posted by herb wings 
and i only learned this through being on here and reading a post or 2 og has made | I am much wiser now!  cheers Herb and OG I will try not to make this mistake again
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10-05-2011, 11:18 PM
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| | Moderator Torque Junkie Car: Elan & Robin Hood
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| Re: Any spoiler fans? Just in case anyone is still unsure
Spoiler. Usually a SMALL upturned lip that is designed to break up (or spoil) the airflow - usually, but not always - over the rear of the vehicle. Many vehicle shapes create lift at the rear end and a correctly positioned spoiler will break up the airflow thereby reducing the lift.
Wing. Shaped like an aircraft wing (hence its name) but upside down. Instead of producing lift it developes downforce. This is what hangs out at the front, rear and sides of F1 cars.
Most of the appendages attached to the rear of road cars are neither spoilers or wings, they are just plastic drag inducers. A lot of them look like wings but most have little or no aerodynamic properties and are there for show only. All they achieve is produce additional drag which will slow the car down!
Even a properly designed and positioned wing will not make a noticable difference to a road vehicle's downforce below 60mph.
For a wing to work properly it should be in clean air flow and be clear of the body, i.e. there should be nothing but air between the wing and the road surface
Now that you know how each works, you won't be calling them by the wrong name anymore, please?
Another one of my pet hates  is calling dampers shock absorbers. They are only called shocks in the USA.
The shock absorber on the suspension is the spring. The springs tendancy to continue to oscillate after being compressed would make the ride unbearable if left to their own devices. However, by fitting a damper these oscillations can be controlled.
So, the metal tube with a piston is called a damper in the UK, NOT a shock absorber.
If not convinced, try removing the springs from your car and see how much shock absorbing the dampers do!
End of lecture  I think I will go and lie down in a darkened room for a while.
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