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Old 02-08-2007, 10:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i'd just like to clear up my confusion about engines.

a straight six is six cylinders in a straight line?

a v6 is 3 cylinders in a straight line but with another 3 opposite, slightly angled to resemble a V shape?

a V12 is the same but with 6 cylinders opposite each other?

does a v unit produce more power over a straight unit?

a straight unit can either be SOHC or DOHC - single or double cams

so would that mean that a V unit would/could have QOHC - Quad Over Head Cam?

and where do valves come in? are SOHC engines without valves quicker as theya re less complex? or 1.2i without valves faster accelerating that a 1.2i 16v?

do valves work on the principle the more the better? i.e 12v inferior to 16v?

what about 24v?

thats all for now
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Questions questions. You are right in your thinking!

The V engines are smoother than straight ones and the more cylinders the more smooth any engine is.

More valves = better. Bigger valves = better still (Go figure the 20v VAG 1.8T engine an inline 4 cylinder with 3 intake valves and 2 exhaust valves per cylinder!)

Both engines produce similar power V's do it smoothly.

You've not mentioned the W engine layout or the Boxers so I'll let someone else go there!
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Based on the best part of your message, I wonder if you can get a...

V12, 24V (DOHC), 3 litre or something?

If you can, I should put it in my 206
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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at a guess, a W is two V units adjoined?

what about the golf V5? is that just being awkward having one cylinder stuck on the end? if so is that just for the auxiliaries?
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Old 05-08-2007, 10:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It's nowhere that simple. a straight six is likely to be sweeter and smoother than a V6 arrangement. An in-line six cylinder engine is geometrically balanced.

Lot's of V6's have been built around a 90 degree bank to bank profile; basically a V8 with two cylinders lopped off.

Valves are valves and camshafts are camshafts.

A 16v four cylinder in line motor can have just one overhead camshaft. Usually there are two, hence DOHC, twin-cam etc.

A V6 24 valve (four valves per cylinder) unit has two banks of three cylinders each cylinder having four valves. Commonly you'll find two pairs of camshafts. So, it's 4 cam engine.

Old V6's, such as Ford's Cologne V6 had a single camshaft mounted in the engine block - it operated the (twelve, in this case) valves via pushrods.

THe Rolls-Royce 6750cc V8 used the same mechanisms well into the mid 1990's.

Five cylinder units are unusual, quirky and fun. Audi started this lark in the 1970's with the Audi 100 5E. 2144cc unit, five in a line injector fed engine - arranged front to back but driving front wheels through a transaxle that turned drive through 90 degrees.

Not to be outdone by Fiat and Volvo, VW introduced (around 199 a V5, which is a kind of V engine with a very narrow angle between cylinder banks. Much like the earlier VR6 narrow angle V6's these used offset cylinders to shorten the block, but have much more in common with in line motors.

W's are stranger. It seems VW is leading the way with all these strange arrangements.

A W12 is kind of like a 3 four cylinder units moulded together, thus making the engine much shorter than a traditional V12.

Downside is, as always, weight. Waynne will thank me for not mentioning diesels.
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heavy stuff

engines arent as bad as you may think......
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And I'm still not mentioning diesel
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im better off thinking tha magic makes diesels tick over...
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm impressed with your restraint HDI! Nice explanation of the V and straight sixes by the way - on the ball as ever. I've always thought a V is smoother than a straight 6 though - its something for me to research now!
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