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Old 17-11-2009, 10:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The ultimate Q Car

What car would you say is the ultimate Q or sleeper?

I would suggest the RS6 Audi and Nissan Stagea come pretty high up on the sleeper list.

What other cars can you think of that have much more power and performance than their shape or size would indicate?
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Old 17-11-2009, 02:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've always had a liking for the Subaru Legacy 3.0R Spec B. I like that fact that the legacy is debadged, so you can't tell which model it is. They don't even have flared wheelarches ( like the RS6) to give the game away.

The other one would be the PAssat W8. Also looks pretty much like an ordinary one.

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Old 17-11-2009, 03:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A debaged 335d Touring would be a good option. A good remap will see nearly 350bhp and over 500lbft.

May need to find a means to disguise the twin exhausts - perhaps a lower rear valence and down facing tailpipes could be fitted?
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http://passionford.com/forum/restora...-upgrades.html

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Old 17-11-2009, 07:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The problem is that the MkII is now so rare that it'll stand out.
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Old 17-11-2009, 07:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The problem is that the MkII is now so rare that it'll stand out.
But not with the expectations of it being mental fast and people wanting to race it all the time.
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Old 17-11-2009, 08:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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But not with the expectations of it being mental fast and people wanting to race it all the time.
No, they wouldn't consider it - that's fair enough.

Even the quickest of those was only about 160bhp in 2.8i Ghia X form with a manual box.
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Old 18-11-2009, 09:48 AM   #8 (permalink)
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That is pretty mental but I was thinking of a car straight out of the box rather than a heavily modified one
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Old 18-11-2009, 11:28 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The problem is that the MkII is now so rare that it'll stand out.

That car does stand out too much. Just the way it sits says "POWER".
Also when you see the roll cage you'll def know it's got something special under the bonnet.
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Old 18-11-2009, 03:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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That car does stand out too much. Just the way it sits says "POWER".
Also when you see the roll cage you'll def know it's got something special under the bonnet.
I disagree. A yellow 1.2 Corsa with a ghey bodykit stands out too much, does that mean everyone knows it's got 1000bhp?
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Old 18-11-2009, 05:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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1000bhp from a 1.2 ?

That'll be some tuning exercise
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Old 18-11-2009, 06:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Merc E55 AMG is a good example of a 'Q' car.
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Old 18-11-2009, 06:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
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um, did the guy on that link say 2300bhp?, slightly overkill

demonic car, but certaintly not standard.
how about one of those new skoda vrs's, you dont expect them to go more than 30 miles an hour, ever, but the police are starting to use them as interceptors. probably because they realised that most things will outrun the little astra's.
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I think a Q car needs more performance than a Skoda vRS model.

Lively as they are a Q car should have blistering performance.
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Old 18-11-2009, 10:17 PM   #15 (permalink)
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With a bit of cursing and swearing and a lot of work you could probably fit VAGs 3.2L V6 (at least) in there, given it's the Golf platform.


My vote would be a Skoda Rapide 120 with engine swapped for something like a 1.4TSI tuned for performance.
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The other one would be the PAssat W8. Also looks pretty much like an ordinary one.
Although the 4 tails and hoofing great big noise are a give-away I must admit

It's a Q car as long as your not following it and the engines switched off.
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Old 19-11-2009, 04:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I disagree. A yellow 1.2 Corsa with a ghey bodykit stands out too much, does that mean everyone knows it's got 1000bhp?
No cause thats just Chav.
But that Granada just shouts power before you even hear it running.
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Old 20-11-2009, 11:36 AM   #18 (permalink)
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A remapped 330D FTW!
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might as well go the whole hog as Hdi suggested 335d
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I guess so but they are still quite new and quite pricey.
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1000bhp from a 1.2 ?

That'll be some tuning exercise
Nah, induction kit and a 4 inch tailpipe! Don't tell Pikey I said that!
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For a sleeper and Q-car,how about a,you've guessed it Volvo?

Sorry it was stronger than me
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Well my Stageas always being confused with a volvo........................

It depends what you want

For me it should also go round corners at speed and stop otherwise its who puts the biggest engine in the smallest car .

If it has to be a std car - maybe a lotus carlton but I think the ultimate Q car has got to be at least 500bhp .

...............(but then maybe Im biased )
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@ Sleeper! I think you have it. Guess who inspired this thread then!

I forgot the Lotus Carlton, that was a monster. I remember square exhaust pipes and those lovely alloys.
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