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05-01-2009, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by HDi fun I always replace in pairs or all four but obviously you can't do this if you get a puncture in the shoulder | For some reason I had loads of them last year. But when I was short on cash I just put a budget on until I could afford to replace them both with the same tyre.
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05-01-2009, 01:03 PM
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| Re: tracking In 2007 I had 3 unrepairables in a row. COntinental Premium Contacts aren't cheap
I think it was due to some building work going on up the road, a lot of contractors aren't too careful with nails and screws when loading/unloading their vehicles - I think this was the cause. |
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05-01-2009, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HDi fun In 2007 I had 3 unrepairables in a row. COntinental Premium Contacts aren't cheap
I think it was due to some building work going on up the road, a lot of contractors aren't too careful with nails and screws when loading/unloading their vehicles - I think this was the cause. | I had 3 go at once cause some git slashed them at night outside my flat    |
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05-01-2009, 01:16 PM
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| Re: tracking Don't get too much of that around here thankfully. You should be able to make an insurance claim for that type of damage |
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05-01-2009, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HDi fun I also hate the situation that arises if you're forced to replace just one front tyre as a result or an unrepairable puncture. Even a couple of mm difference in tread depth can upset the handling | i have 2 brand new tyres on the front, and their the same brand as the back which are 25 percent worn
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05-01-2009, 02:46 PM
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| Re: tracking Quote:
Originally Posted by waynne Tyre pressures can also make a massive difference here so check that these are spot on before you begin. | il make sure of that, thanks mate |
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05-01-2009, 02:48 PM
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| Re: tracking Quote:
Originally Posted by turbonutter69 | #!#!#!#!#!#!#!s |
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07-01-2009, 12:26 AM
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| Re: tracking right, took of the front wheel today and noticed it was missing that sig ring,
i had some spare in my shed so i put 1 in the wheel, to find out it wont go over the nut on the hub=its too small
so i said what il do is take the 1 off the back wheel to get a match to what i need, only to find there was none on that either, i didnt even bother to take of the other 2 wheels as id say their missing too,
would this be the reason that even though it was just tracked and balanced, the car feels ropey, and vibrates at high speeds??
oh god my brother, i still love him though and it gets better as he said since i lost them, il get you new 1s... easily know the resestion isnt efecting him
by the way, how much are these rings for 4, rang a place today and got priced 30 euros
is that good?? |
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07-01-2009, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by prevtec right, took of the front wheel today and noticed it was missing that sig ring,
i had some spare in my shed so i put 1 in the wheel, to find out it wont go over the nut on the hub=its too small
so i said what il do is take the 1 off the back wheel to get a match to what i need, only to find there was none on that either, i didnt even bother to take of the other 2 wheels as id say their missing too,
would this be the reason that even though it was just tracked and balanced, the car feels ropey, and vibrates at high speeds??
oh god my brother, i still love him though and it gets better as he said since i lost them, il get you new 1s... easily know the resestion isnt efecting him
by the way, how much are these rings for 4, rang a place today and got priced 30 euros
is that good?? | You talking about the spigot wheel? I have never had to buy any but i'd say that price sounds fair. If you are talking about the spigot wheel then yes that is why it feels ropey and vibrates that is exactly what happens when you leave the spigot wheel out... |
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10-01-2009, 06:39 PM
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| Re: tracking ok then, got my car tracked and balanced today and heres my conclusion
as waynne said: make sure your tyre pressure is spot on
as turbo nutter said: you need to have the spigot ring on all wheels
as hdi showed me from an article he found: the car has to be tracked using a line that goes through the car. every cars line is different
steve my mechanic gave me the whole lot today,
first the car was tracked, thats the easy part
then he done the tracking,
he first put the car on the ramp and turned the steering wheel from left to right a couple of times, (this method pumps the steering fluid through and in a sense gets any air out of the system)
he then tied the steering wheel using a clamp in the straigfht foward position
the engine was left running through out this procedure (its easier to do the track rods)
after lining up the 4 wheels with the laser system, he tracked it, but he had the manufactors reccomendations booklet and went off them readings
the car is perfect and tight, ( the way it should be) and no wobbles at all, no matter what speed
he also told me why the problem was there in the first place, aka, my brother
you see, he never put on the spigot rings, put too much weights on all wheels, and tracked it wrong
he done it by bringing the 2 front wheels to 0 on each side and had 4 on each side on the back wheels, thats wrong,
by the book, my fronts should be -2 and plus 2, the back is 4 on each side
so lads and lassies, if your getting your tracking done, make sure that whoever is doing it, does so by the book, otherwise its a waist of time |
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10-01-2009, 07:22 PM
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| Re: tracking That's very true. The ability and attitude of the operator is more important than the equipment used. |
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10-01-2009, 07:28 PM
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| Re: tracking Quote:
Originally Posted by HDi fun That's very true. The ability and attitude of the operator is more important than the equipment used. | thanks for the article too mate |
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