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Old 12-06-2008, 07:12 AM   #16 (permalink)
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"also if your speeding on the motorway watch out for them as they said that the police are giving them control of catching speeding motorists on the motorways."

Having civilians cautioning speeding drivers on the hard shoulder sounds a biut far fetched to me. These Hignway Agency guys seem to have Walter Mitty tendencies.
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:58 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I get the impression that policies vary widely from force to force. Do you think this should be standardised?
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Old 12-06-2008, 10:56 AM   #18 (permalink)
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If it was standardised then we (as in the public) would have a better idea of what to look for. As soon we spotted an unmarked Vectra/A4 we would suspect an undercover cop car and we'd slow down. If they vary the vehicles used then we have less chance of spotting them, and a higher chance of being pulled over for speeding (assuming that we are speeding) therefore meaning more money in speeding fines.
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Old 12-06-2008, 03:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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What's the point of standardising them? They'd then be recongnisable to all of us. Including criminals. Plain Police cars spend more time doing CID work than they do motorway work.
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"also if your speeding on the motorway watch out for them as they said that the police are giving them control of catching speeding motorists on the motorways."

Having civilians cautioning speeding drivers on the hard shoulder sounds a biut far fetched to me. These Hignway Agency guys seem to have Walter Mitty tendencies.
unfortunatly what was said is correct, idk how much theyd bother to enforce it but they will be getting the power shortley.
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i thought the idea of the highway ageny was to shut the moterway when a hedgehog of somehting else got run over.
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Old 12-06-2008, 09:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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i thought the idea of the highway ageny was to shut the moterway when a hedgehog of somehting else got run over.
The Highways Agency undoubtedly has a role to play in maintaining swift and safe traffic flow. Detaining drivers at the roadside is not part of this in my opinion.

I don't think that the power to caution or report drivers for speeding is going to be achieved without a complete change to traffic law, the criminal evidence act and the criminal justice act.

Only a police officer currently has the right to pursue and stop a car. If this is extended to civilians (which is what HA employees are) then where will we go from there? Well, firstly PACE will have to be completely rewritten to cover any case that is challenged and subsequently goes beyond a magistrate's court.

You need to keep in mind that the police, the government and the courts are not the law in themselves.

And, do we truly have a problem with speed on motorways. If you look at the statistics then yes, we do. If you look at the gathered data from which the statistics are compiled then we can prove that we have lots of vehicles exceeding the speed limit.

But is that actually a problem in terms of overall safety?

I suspect not. So why spend f''' knows how much trying the change the shape of a series of numbers to achieve almost nothing?

Sadly' the current government will ignore such simple rationales and force things through to suit their next election campaign.

So. You should watch out. But you shouldn't have to.
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Old 18-06-2008, 12:53 AM   #23 (permalink)
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in regards to hdi fun, fair enough yeah what you say does make sense, but i am only telling you what i got told by the highway guys, who also claimed that they were trained better to deal with road users than the old bill.

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Old 18-06-2008, 02:19 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I'm sure that's what they told you. They're hardly going to say that they're crap, are they?
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ah well, they were cocks anyway, so what car you drive anyways?
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