New scale for Torque

[waynne]

With PS,N,Psi,KGsqt,lbs sqft etc it gets hard to compare power figures from one country to another so I thought we really need to devise a proper torque scale that works internationally.

What about the number of double decker buses you can pull? (It's an often used scale for dinosours and whale length!)

Alternatively Torque could be measured on the angle of slope you can pull up a 1 ton trailer without stalling.

Then there is the plain silly no of elephants you can beat at tug of war.

What other Torque scales can you come up with and does it wind you up that different countries use different scales.

[HDi fun]

Waynne, I think you're slightly out here. lb/sqft is a measaure of pressure, and a s such needs sqaure unit of area. Torque is a measure of rotational force. Whether we get a more unified unit of measure is immaterial if no-one really knows what the stuff is.

Here goes, I'll try for an analogy.

Imagine a 1 foot long spanner which is in horizontal position and attached to a difficult to undo bolt.

If you now go and hang a 100lb weight from the end of the spanner you are applying 100lbft of torque to the bolt. But the bolt doesn't budge.

So you hang another 100lb weight on the end of the spanner. Now you're applying 200lbft of torque.

TO every force there's an equal and opposite force. So the bolt is presenting a torque of 200lbft against the spanner.

[waynne]

This is only meant to be a fun thread really . I can also start an indepth thread on what torque is but I think we've done that already.

Ok, I concede I was getting a bit silly there with the measures! I thought about adding Minutes per square foot as well!

So your new measure (no where near as frivolous as I was hoping) is weights on a spanner! I can see that working but that's not that far off what we have really.

Don't you think we can use double decker buses somewhere in this?

[HDi fun]

Yeah, let's have a bash then.....

Let's see how silly we can get this!

[turbonutter69]

We could time how long it is before the tyre's let go whilst doing a burnout.

[HDi fun]

Originally Posted by turbonutter69

We could time how long it is before the tyre's let go whilst doing a burnout.

Using the double decker bus as an anchor point, perhaps?

Or tow the double decker bus and see how long it takes for the gearbox to fall to bits.

[turbonutter69]

Originally Posted by HDi fun

Using the double decker bus as an anchor point, perhaps?

Or tow the double decker bus and see how long it takes for the gearbox to fall to bits.

Wouldn't be long in my case with the Rover

[HDi fun]

I don't think many cars would stand that kind of load for long. A London Routemaster is [surprisingly] only about 7 tons unladen. But that's still nearly six more tons than my car weighs.

How about installing 72 passengers in the form of Torque Cars members to add a bit of ballast?

Then we could take bets on whether the clutch is gonna smoke itself to death before the transaxle dumps a pile of circlips all over the tarmac.

[turbonutter69]

[J0K3R]

I'm voting for how long the wheels spin when you dump the clutch from standing, lol. Could also measure SSFPDALC (*split seconds from pedal down at light change). C/a (Clutches per annum). When it comes to torque with tools, I think expletive per minute should do the trick. And why all the love for double deckers? Lol. What about the bendy busses? Haha.

[waynne]

You never see dinosours or blue whales compared to bendy buses! Trust a Londoner to want bendy buses.

[turbonutter69]

I like going on them bendy buses they cool.

[Loz]

I don't know about new measures but I can confirm that Torque (& bhp) is directly proportional to how many pints of beer are consumed.

[HDi fun]

Originally Posted by Loz

I don't know about new measures but I can confirm that Torque (& bhp) is directly proportional to how many pints of beer are consumed.

Good point - I've heard of so many Vauxhall Novas which can top 175mph. During such conversations none of us has been remotely capable of driving one at even 75mph.

[Loz]

Torque can be measured as the distance a car reaches before the driver realises they've forgotten their phone,wallet or kids.

[turbonutter69]

Originally Posted by Loz

Torque can be measured as the distance a car reaches before the driver realises they've forgotten their phone,wallet or kids.

[HDi fun]

Originally Posted by turbonutter69

I'm still impressed by the fact you managed to break both front half-shafts in your Primera simultaenously.

[turbonutter69]

Good stuff wasn't it.
I'm special me.

[Chris Green]

Originally Posted by Loz

I don't know about new measures but I can confirm that Torque (& bhp) is directly proportional to how many pints of beer are consumed.

Given the price of beer these days, it kind of ruins the argument that torque is cheap.

What about expressing torque as the number of bar staff needed to wring an ale-soaked bar towel bone dry? You could call the unit BARS - what's that? It's been done? Oh b****r! Oi'll get me coat.

As it was Sir Isaac that formulated the theory of gravity whilst sitting under a tree, what is a KiloNewtonMetre? I'll tell you. It's the energy exerted when approx two and a quarter pounds of Grannie Smiths are dropped on your head from a height of just over one yard.

Here's another. Let's just change the spelling of BHP to Break Horse Power - i.e. the maximum power exerted just before you break something, which brings us neatly back to Primera half-shafts!

Shaft Horse Power is what the dealer claims the car has, just before you realise you have been..........

2G* is a cornering force, and coincides with the amount you'd have to spend on a suspension/wheels/tyres upgrade to achieve it.

(*The equivalent of having 2 gorillas trying to pull you sideways from your car without opening the door first. If you're going over a humped-back bridge, they may come in through the sunroof)

[waynne]

I think you might be on to something there Chris

[waynne]

What about the number of fences you can crash through!

Or the age of tree you can uproot! Pulling out a tree stump needs loads of torque, good traction and a killer clutch! I've seen 4x4 pickups beaten by a modest tree stump.

[Yugguy]

How about how many double chins you get when you put your foot down?
Or how much you slow the earth's orbit?

[HDi fun]

The depth of the pits in your frontal cortex left by your eyeballs being rammed backwards.

[Big Fat Fatty]

I think HDi's got it!

Originally Posted by waynne

What about the number of fences you can crash through!

Or the age of tree you can uproot! Pulling out a tree stump needs loads of torque, good traction and a killer clutch! I've seen 4x4 pickups beaten by a modest tree stump.

A mate of mine brought his HGV tow truck round to mine to haul out a fairly old tree stump, the trunk was only about a foot in diametre. He came full of enthusiasm and left stinking of defeat

[SLEEPER]

Torque is how far you go through a fence when you hit it