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24-01-2012, 05:53 PM
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#201 (permalink)
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 The engine is finally going in - I thought this day would never come
Happy for you OG
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24-01-2012, 09:48 PM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by T9 man The engine is finally going in - I thought this day would never come  | Me too!
Hopefully, tomorrow. Bellhousing was bolted to gearbox this afternoon and I can't think of anything else I need to do before fitting it.
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Absolutely way too much horsepower is almost enough.
Last edited by Loz; 24-01-2012 at 10:12 PM.
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24-01-2012, 09:54 PM
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#203 (permalink)
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 I can.
Pictures. |
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24-01-2012, 10:04 PM
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#204 (permalink)
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) I like the way you rumble, I also make as much of my own parts as I can, do you have any idea of bhp you will have when finished? |
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24-01-2012, 10:16 PM
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#205 (permalink)
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 I used to own a 1970 Mk1 1558 cc Lotus Escort that had twin 45mm side draft carbs, factory L1 cams and factory extractors and used big valve head off the Super Seven.
It was no where near wild and produced 175 bhp so 190 from the Elan doesnt seem far fetched.
Go Lotus a car well before its time |
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24-01-2012, 10:29 PM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) Quote:
Originally Posted by loz1961 I like the way you rumble, I also make as much of my own parts as I can, do you have any idea of bhp you will have when finished? | 520bhp and around 420lb/ft on pump gas. |
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24-01-2012, 10:30 PM
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#207 (permalink)
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by turbonutter69 I can.
Pictures.  | I can't add pictures before I fit it! I promise to photograph the process and upload the same evening, OK? |
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24-01-2012, 10:32 PM
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#208 (permalink)
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Hi OG,
you seem to know a bit about building race cars so will fire a question to you.
I have thought about removing the alternator all together as a weight/horse power gain and running off the battery for shorter races ie. supersprints and charging battery up between races and jump starting to conserve battery power.
Any ideas on this??
By the way great articule on the Elan |
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24-01-2012, 10:35 PM
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#209 (permalink)
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) Thats impressive you should have a really competitive car, what other cars will you be competing with? |
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24-01-2012, 11:07 PM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by old-git I can't add pictures before I fit it! I promise to photograph the process and upload the same evening, OK?  | I meant of everything ready to go in. |
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24-01-2012, 11:11 PM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 thought the 520 was on race fuel. what you expecting on that then ?
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25-01-2012, 12:58 AM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2
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25-01-2012, 01:09 AM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by pgarner thought the 520 was on race fuel. what you expecting on that then ? | Q16, a race fuel developed for turbo engined cars, should be good for an extra 90ish BHP. |
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25-01-2012, 01:15 AM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Good man. 
How long do you estimate you'll have a rolling chassis?
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25-01-2012, 01:22 AM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by loz1961 Hi OG,
you seem to know a bit about building race cars so will fire a question to you.
I have thought about removing the alternator all together as a weight/horse power gain and running off the battery for shorter races ie. supersprints and charging battery up between races and jump starting to conserve battery power.
Any ideas on this??
By the way great articule on the Elan | You will get a better answer from the more experienced racers on this site, but here goes anyway:
Removing the alternator will reduce weight and power drain, slightly. However, you will either have to fit a stretchy fan belt (unless running an electric water pump) if such a thing exists or fit some kind of belt tensioner, if there isn't one already fitted. You may have to increase your battery size to compensate which would negate most, if not all, of the weight saved.
One trick that is used is to fit a switch in the charging circuit so you can turn the alternator off when racing as there is more resistance when the alternator is producing power. A free running alternator takes very little power to turn.
I have fitted the smallest alternator I could find that will produce enough power for my porposes while still allowing a small battery to be used. See photos earlier in this thread.
Last edited by old-git; 25-01-2012 at 11:30 AM.
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25-01-2012, 01:24 AM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) Quote:
Originally Posted by loz1961 Thats impressive you should have a really competitive car, what other cars will you be competing with? | Don't know yet. Just want to get the car running first and have a play at Test and Tune days at the drag strip. If I sprint it , it will go in the Sports Libra class. |
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25-01-2012, 01:25 AM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by turbonutter69 Good man. 
How long do you estimate you'll have a rolling chassis? | If you exclude dampers (I will fit bars to hold it up for now) it should be rolling by weekend after next. |
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25-01-2012, 01:32 AM
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#218 (permalink)
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 I started discussing this in the Style Forum, but thought I would move it to here (keep everything in one place)
This is my indulgance, flight of fancy, folly, call it what you will. I would like to get all of the controls on to the steering wheel so that my hands stay on the wheel at all times.
To that end I have been playing around for some time and have finally come up with this. Still only proof of concept but it is beginning to come together: http://www.torquecars.com/forums/att...1&d=1327451452
Plenty more switches to be sourced and fitted and plate will be black. What do you think? Am I being childish wanting an F1 style wheel? Will/does lit look silly? |
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25-01-2012, 12:47 PM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by old-git If you exclude dampers (I will fit bars to hold it up for now) it should be rolling by weekend after next. | hmmm im down in essex for a few days in a couple of weeks.
Do you think you could have it running by then |
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25-01-2012, 05:57 PM
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#220 (permalink)
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by old-git | I think it looks fine OG, the finished article in black should look rather professional! Take it easy on the indicator lights though as they will be a distraction |
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25-01-2012, 06:00 PM
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#221 (permalink)
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by pgarner hmmm im down in essex for a few days in a couple of weeks.
Do you think you could have it running by then  | If you are coming down to roughty toughty land PG and if OG does not mind????
It would be great to catch up with you both |
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25-01-2012, 06:24 PM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 yeah down in basildon on the 8th and 9th, catching some comedian - HI booked it, on the 8th then just a day wandering london as no been down in a couple of years. coming back up on the 10th for her birthday |
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26-01-2012, 12:31 AM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by T9 man If you are coming down to roughty toughty land PG and if OG does not mind????
It would be great to catch up with you both  | That would be great. I am only 15-20 minutes from Basildump. |
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26-01-2012, 12:32 AM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by pgarner hmmm im down in essex for a few days in a couple of weeks.Do you think you could have it running by then  | I think not |
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26-01-2012, 12:33 AM
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| Re: At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2 Quote:
Originally Posted by T9 man I think it looks fine OG, the finished article in black should look rather professional! Take it easy on the indicator lights though as they will be a distraction  | Thanks T9. The only indicator lights, apart from illuminiated switches, are the ones built into the Dash2 in order to make it road legal. |
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