24-09-2007, 09:03 PM
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| sorry i knew petrol wasent magnetic but i was certain that crude oil undistilled stright out of the ground was
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24-09-2007, 09:08 PM
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| o right, i misunderstood, sorry
not with it tonight
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24-09-2007, 10:52 PM
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25-09-2007, 11:23 AM
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| The rules of magnetism change at absolute zero but thinking about it - its never going to get that cold! 
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25-09-2007, 05:53 PM
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| wonder wot it is then it was a thick black liquid that went mentak when a magnet went near it. anyideas?
absolute zero is only around -237 degress of is it -273 cant remember
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25-09-2007, 06:36 PM
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| That black stuff is not crude oil.
It was branded in the 1970's as ferrofluid, consisting of an oil carrier (which isn't magnetic), and ferrous particles (which are). As such you wind up with a fluid which consists of iron particles suspended in oil, rather than dissolved in it. It was a clever pack of additives that maintained the surface tension of the oil carrier so that it behaved in the manner a truly magnetic liquid would behave.
It was fashionable to use it to cool high frequency drivers of PA speakers, and in some cases, certain domestic loudspeakers with very very high power handling requirements. I believe this practice is now obsolete with modern high power speakers using voice coils made from materials other than straight copper. By high power, I mean of the order of 1000 watts continuous RMS input. |
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25-09-2007, 06:41 PM
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| cheers
that might be it i just remember it about 10 years ago on something like blue peter it was thick black liquid in a persex box that was spiking and moving when a magnet was moving around it. always thought it was just crude oil.
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25-09-2007, 07:29 PM
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| yeah, that's the stuff. It's certainly no crude oil. |
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27-09-2007, 11:45 AM
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| -273 I think! Certainly cold enough to keep the Brass Monkeys from going out!
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27-09-2007, 10:34 PM
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| Absolute zero is a situation that is impossible to achieve in reality. At that temperature the laws of classical physics break down. Even nearly above it, they start to misbehave enourmously.
That's really just to say that nature is less straightfoward than we think. There are a few situations where zero K might be beenficial. Example, electricity distribution could be revolutionised. Transmit it through zero resistance conductors without having to ramp up the PD to 425,000 volts or more. And through hair thin wires.
Problem, how do you keep 'em that cold? |
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28-09-2007, 09:21 AM
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| at absolute zero, theoretically you can suspend an atom without it moving enabling us to view it and see what it actually looks like.
(under a verrry big picoscope)
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28-09-2007, 09:51 AM
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| I suppose at absolute zero we can honestly say that an atom is a physical thing. It's the interchangibility of energy and mass that makes it complex anywhere above absolute zero.
Like light, for example. It's convenient to use the wave theory for some purposes, and the particle theory (photons) for others. |
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28-09-2007, 11:55 AM
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| My wifes feet hover around absolute zero most of the time. 
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28-09-2007, 12:04 PM
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| I've got one of those with a similar condition. And she plonks 'em on my legs thereby waking me up instantly. |
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28-09-2007, 12:06 PM
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| yeah right it the middle of the night
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