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Old 01-08-2008, 11:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Electric water pumps.

Any thoughts on the benefits and drawbacks of electric water pumps?

Not the water injection but an alternative to cycle engine coolant around the block.
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guessing they would be easier to change
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Old 01-08-2008, 03:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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With an electric water pump you can set the engine temp to low for more power or higher for better economy! Most kits i've seen require the removal of the thermostat and the existing pumps impeller to be removed. The whole pump and controller should be around £200. It really does sound like pluses all round for this.

I've seen Davies Craig models by the way which are designed for motorsport use.
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AN electric oil pump and heater in addition could completely eliminate startup engine wear
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Is the heater for the oil or the engine. Can you actually get them it will no doubt help on cold mornings. You could always light a disposible BBQ under the sump.
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If the coolant was heated (kenlowe used to do something of this type 20 years ago) then the oil would benefit somewhat as well.

Not sure I fancy lighting a barbie underneath the car really.
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do the innut ( eskimoes ) not have something like this on their own cars. not powered by the engine itself but when they park up they plug it in. the heater keeps the coolant and oil warm enough not to freeze / sludge up due to the extreme cold
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Probably cheaper to leave the engine running
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Or wrap it up in a massive thermal blanket overnight.
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The problem is reliability, even on there pages it says a specific number of hours which when I looked it wasn't that much driving every day. For motorsport hell yeah, for me- no thanks
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I Didn't realise the electric water pumps have a run time limitation. Shame really. What are those limitations then?

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Electric Water pumps are also very efficient, You gain power back from the engine by removing the belt driven pump and the additonal load on the alternator is minimal compared,
With modern oils such as Magnatex etc, i wouldn't worry to much about cold start engine wear, only if short journeys are the normal,
I would still run the thermostat and have the pump running the whole time otherwise hotspots appear and no heat into the car
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