26-08-2007, 09:58 AM
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| THat's a fair point. After a while you might get fed up with it. Can always take it off I suppose. |
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26-08-2007, 07:43 PM
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| If only it was as simple as a button.
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26-08-2007, 08:10 PM
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| It's as simple as not bothering. HDi's sound nice anyway, especially if you get it re-mapped to wind up the boost pressure low down. Even the 90bhp will go to over 120 and sound like a rally car at low revs. |
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26-08-2007, 11:07 PM
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| Yeah my one is 90bhp and it can be remapped to roughly 125.
I doubt I will bother with dump valves.
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27-08-2007, 05:19 PM
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| Go for the remap. It's money well spent.
Trust me, you'll like the immediacy of the pedal when it;'s done.
Celtic Tuning did mine - given my car is 139bhp in factory tune the 192 they got is stunning. No need to use it all though - changing up at 2500rpm still leaves you well ahead of 16v two litre Golf Gti's etc. The torque in the midrange is absolutely silly. The car will fidget if you over pedal it in third (in the wet fourth can be interesting!).
What you get though is the delight in driving a car that pulls in all gears evenly. No peaks, no troughs, just loads and loads of torque. No dump valve will ever achieve that. |
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27-08-2007, 07:14 PM
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| well, you're convincing me diesel is better.......... 
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27-08-2007, 07:57 PM
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| Diesel is a very worthy compromise now.
Better than petrol? Well, that depends on how you define better.
Litre for litre a high tech turbo-diesel engine is going to outrun a petrol engine of the same size with consumate ease. That's before we modify either of 'em. Diesels are also very quiet now with all the added (costly) technology such as dual mass flywheels, hydraulic engine mounts etc.
My 2.2 HDi with a remap has the sort of mid revs mid speed range shove that you'd expect from a 3.5 litre petrol engine. Surely the 3.5 will win in the end as it can be revved to 7000rpm plus. In gear though, not much in it.
Whether you make any monetary savings is debatable. Diesels do need more frequent servicing; the filters are more numerous and more costly; the engine oils have to be fully synthetic etc. road tax is levied above a petrol car.
I'd stick with the 206, consider a good custom re-map, run it on BP ultimate diesel and dose up with Millers Diesel Sport additive.
Watch you mates' Saxos and 106's disappear gracefully in the mirror. |
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27-08-2007, 08:31 PM
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| i dont have a 206  hehe
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27-08-2007, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by aswearing i dont have a 206  hehe | Nor do I |
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28-08-2007, 02:01 AM
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| He was talking to me, lol.
What oil do you recommend HDI?
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28-08-2007, 09:24 AM
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| Millers XFD which is a 5w/40 fully synthetic diesel specific oil.
There's also a new AMSOIL 5w/40 diesel only oil which I'm going to try next change. |
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07-09-2007, 08:54 AM
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| Ok Guys!
I have some cash so I think (after my remap) that I'll be getting a dump valve for my car (or is it Dump Valves? Ah it doesn't matter...).
How do I go about this? Buy the modification online and then take it to ANY garage? Or to a specific garage?
...or Fit it myself? 
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07-09-2007, 05:37 PM
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| Try Pug1Off in Brackley 01280 701919 and ask for Matt Jobling before you do anything.
He is THE ONE MAN to know when it comes to performance Peugeot and Citroen cars.
Check out the website: http://www.pug1off.com
Rgds,
Paul Anderson. |
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13-10-2007, 08:26 PM
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| Dump Valves... EEEK!!!!!
I drove my first turbo powered car a few months back, a Fiesta RS Turbo, Within 100m the hiss it uttered every time I changed gear was driving me crazy!
Gee, I must be getting old  It reminded me of the time, a LONG time ago, when we used to peg playing cards to the rear forks of our bikes so it clattered against the spokes making a roaring noise vaguely like a motor bike
Same thing, I guess, making something sound like something it isn't 
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13-10-2007, 08:30 PM
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| Things have moved on a bit since the Fiesta RS, thankfully.
Further, try driving a diesel without a turbo - you won't like it at all. |
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