Cornering discussion.

[Twamgl3]

I saw the term "racing line" mentioned. The same practice on an open, public highway is the "path of least resistance" and also known as "apexing". As others have pointed out it is perfectly legal to use the width of the carriageway so long as to do so will not endanger others.

And you should all know by now slow in, fast out! It's perfectly fine to brake on a corner so long as 1. the radius does not tighten and 2. the amount of braking does not increase.

Generally I've got the car down to the speed I want on the straight and my foot goes from the brake to the accelerator as I begin to turn the wheel. Maintain the speed for the first half of the corner, then accelerate as I reach the apex, as, generally speaking the angle on the bend shallows after this point. This is fine in a front wheel drive car. I wouldn't want to do it in an MR2 again where I should have maintained a constant velocity until all the wheels were lined up.

[waynne]

Good point Twamgl3 each car is very different and requires a different approach to cornering.

[HDi fun]

All surfaces, corners, cars, tyres, drivers, alignment principles, driven wheels etc. are so different that it's impossible to write a manual on this subject. This is before we consider what else is on the road or adjacent to it. You can't explore a situation holistically without driving it.

What amazes me is that I see so many BR's in Corsa and Clio models who profess to use racing techniques (as if that matters with a 1.4 litre engine!) and then proceed to steer with one hand!!!! Doing so they look as if they've been involved in a waterskiing accident. They haven't, of course, it's just that the laft one is superglued to the gearshift lever.

No one has yet metioned positioning when approaching a corner or bend. Whatever name you give for a deviation from a straight ahead course of travel.

[pgarner]

Originally Posted by HDi fun

and then proceed to steer with one hand!!!! Doing so they look as if they've been involved in a waterskiing accident. They haven't, of course, it's just that the laft one is superglued to the gearshift lever.

of course the do. this is why they manage to spin on a stright piece of road in the dry

[HDi fun]

PG - well said - you do, like I do, wonder how some people get into such embarrasing situations with such consumate ease.

Worrying really, given we share road space with 'em.

[pgarner]

yeah its worrying ive seen so many cars in the main clios, as these are the new saxos, in the ditch on a straight flat piece of road. whats worrying me more is i should still fit into the category of BR as im under 25 and own a powerful car

[HDi fun]

I put myself in that category too, when I was under 25 (blimey, long time ago!!). Managed to keep things half sensible then, and just about do so now in my dwindling years that are left

But you can still find morons on the road that are over twice your age. Not just the doddering pensioner, with whom I have sympathy - he/she doesn't want to drive either, but it's a necessity.

You find some folks who still worship XR3i's at the age of sixty. And drive them like total ****in ****ers as well.

Yet regard me, (and you, even more, being younger) as menaces to society.

Then, they probably have The Sun (notice I don't say read), and still think Radio 1 is well hip...etc.

[Izo Azlion]

Originally Posted by HDi fun

I put myself in that category too, when I was under 25 (blimey, long time ago!!). Managed to keep things half sensible then, and just about do so now in my dwindling years that are left

But you can still find morons on the road that are over twice your age. Not just the doddering pensioner, with whom I have sympathy - he/she doesn't want to drive either, but it's a necessity.

You find some folks who still worship XR3i's at the age of sixty. And drive them like total ****in ****ers as well.

Yet regard me, (and you, even more, being younger) as menaces to society.

Then, they probably have The Sun (notice I don't say read), and still think Radio 1 is well hip...etc.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DpnOqNx3FRE&feature=related

Describe things pretty well eh?

Hahaha.

[HDi fun]

Give 'em a chance- they're Americans.