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**jarrus** · 20-08-2010, 01:46 AM

What sealant would you recommend then PG?

**pgarner** · 20-08-2010, 03:12 PM

i now just use a couple of coats of normal wax. but you do get proper wheel sealant if you want to splash out

**jarrus** · 20-08-2010, 07:49 PM

I'll keep that in mind,

no this is something that as bugged me,

you have polish, wax and paint renovator, even reading the description on the bottle I can never tell the real differences and what order to apply, I know the paint renovator goes on first if it needs it but most people have a polish and no wax,
I'm totally confused :S

**MasterAuron** · 20-08-2010, 08:06 PM

A paint renovator will just be a cutting polish by any other name most likely. You polish to "clean" or "restore" the paint and then wax to protect it. Maybe I should write a quick detailing guide for the forum?

***HDi fun*** · 20-08-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterAuron

A paint renovator will just be a cutting polish by any other name most likely. You polish to "clean" or "restore" the paint and then wax to protect it. Maybe I should write a quick detailing guide for the forum?

Go for it. You can use my car as a real world example. I can take loads of pictures whilst you do the clever stuff

**MasterAuron** · 20-08-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HDi fun

Go for it. You can use my car as a real world example. I can take loads of pictures whilst you do the clever stuff

LOL nice try HDi! Do you need to change your username to straight-6 fun now?

I'll see what I can knock up while the misses is at a gig and someone can sticky it perhaps?

**jarrus** · 20-08-2010, 09:00 PM

So really what you are saying is that paint renovator is an aggressive polish, then a normal polish will take care of whirls in the paint then wax to protect,

But really I guess if you use a paint renovator then you don't need polish?

***HDi fun*** · 20-08-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterAuron

LOL nice try HDi! Do you need to change your username to straight-6 fun now?

I'll see what I can knock up while the misses is at a gig and someone can sticky it perhaps?

Possibly for a while, but I still like the remapped diesel muscle. The E39 was an emergency purchase - money is very very tight at the moment due to family circumstances.

I did, however, avoid diesel because the long term running costs (especially with older cars) can escalate. NASP petrols are far more mature in terms of reliability.

It's not especially quick (2.8, not a V8 model), but it's not exactly underpowered in fairness, and it does a good job as a family all round car.

It's not especially dirty yet, either. Still not interested???

I've got a very good camera. Takes nice pics.

Oh sod it HDi, quit whilst you're behind.

I'll sticky the thread right away

kind rgds,

P.

**MasterAuron** · 20-08-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jarrus

So really what you are saying is that paint renovator is an aggressive polish, then a normal polish will take care of whirls in the paint then wax to protect,

But really I guess if you use a paint renovator then you don't need polish?

Actually yes you normally do. You need to refine the finish with a milder polish. Use something like G3 or AG Paint Renovator on a car and it will come up nice and shiny but the paint will still feel quite rough to touch. Go over it again with a milder cutting polish and it will become a lot smoother and even shinier still. There's no need to use a "Paint Renovator" unless the damage is quite severe though.

**pgarner** · 20-08-2010, 10:34 PM

go for it MA save me doing it. wished i had taken before and after pics when i did my parents car as it showed a big difference in getting rid of the swiral marks. could still take some of my lil sis car as its badly oxidised to the point when the purple is more a sky blue in colour

paint renovator as said is a more aggressive cutting polished. depending on the paint type it might be needed to get rid of swiral marks on some paint where as a mild polish might work on softer paints such as hondas

**geraint13** · 21-08-2010, 08:28 AM

so different cars have different types of paint then ? whats the difference btween a hard paint and a soft paint.
this sounds like a minefield lol.

**jarrus** · 21-08-2010, 10:55 AM

Indeed it does, enlighten us, I dare say my car uses a soft paint cause it's french, lol

***HDi fun*** · 21-08-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jarrus

Indeed it does, enlighten us, I dare say my car uses a soft paint cause it's french, lol

That's a bit of a myth. Peugeot's paint finishes are extremely durable.

**MasterAuron** · 21-08-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pgarner

go for it MA save me doing it. wished i had taken before and after pics when i did my parents car as it showed a big difference in getting rid of the swiral marks. could still take some of my lil sis car as its badly oxidised to the point when the purple is more a sky blue in colour

paint renovator as said is a more aggressive cutting polished. depending on the paint type it might be needed to get rid of swiral marks on some paint where as a mild polish might work on softer paints such as hondas

Please do. Those pictures are plundered from google image so if you could get some of our own to include in the guide instead. Wish I'd have taken proper pictures of the Corsa too, but it's all time isn't it.

Soft and hard paints...I'll try and include something on that too.

**jarrus** · 21-08-2010, 01:38 PM

Actually, that said you're right.

there are actually a couple of places where there is rust growing, and both places have been an insurance repair job (niether of which were my fault, i just thought I would through that in there

) but everywhere else that has 12 year old paint is mint....

**tjay56** · 21-08-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by waynne

Wonder wheels is still pretty corrosive stuff, and not the sort of thing you want to get on your hands.

Halfords and your local parts store sell wonder wheels and it does do a good job, it comes with a brush and a spray on applicator.

IMO,WONDER WHEELS is not very good at all.If you leave it to dwell too long it will lift the lacquer on your alloys.As has been said,BILBEERY is the best stuff to use.

Once your wheels are clean,give them a coat of JETSEAL 109.This will reduce the effects of the brake dust on your wheels,and make them easier to clean.

**tjay56** · 21-08-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jarrus

What sealant would you recommend then PG?

Sorry,I'm not PG,but I would reccommend using JETSEAL 109,which can be bought through any online detailing supplier.

**tjay56** · 21-08-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jarrus

I'll keep that in mind,

no this is something that as bugged me,

you have polish, wax and paint renovator, even reading the description on the bottle I can never tell the real differences and what order to apply, I know the paint renovator goes on first if it needs it but most people have a polish and no wax,
I'm totally confused :S

Fear not sir.

When a car has been polished,it should also be given 1 coat of a good carnauba wax.A decent polishing/waxing will last up to 6 months.Do not polish over wax as you will be wasting your time and money.If the finish is "dull",clay the car,then polish,seal and wax in that order.

I could get you confused by saying that different waxes will give different appearances on the paint.Some will give a nice shine,some will give depth and others will make the car look like it's still wet.

Detailing is a mine field.lol.

**RobBentley** · 22-08-2010, 09:26 AM

I find some of the ability to remove dust down to the finish of the alloy wheels themselves. My Range Rover Sport had 19" wheels stock, and brake dust used to cling to them like **** to a shovelful.

The 20" wheels I replaced them with it just falls off - I haven't changed brand of pads. Used Genuine Land Rover pads throughout.

**jarrus** · 22-08-2010, 09:32 AM

Must be the coating on the wheels then,