Will there be a Ferrari Diesel

[HDi fun]

Sorry TN69 but that's my point. Who cares about the emissions from a car maker who sells 50 cars a year? All of which will cover macro mileages anyway.

When Ferrari does a diesel it will be an exemplary drive, holding true to the supercar idioligy.

[waynne]

Originally Posted by chrisjlf

i hope the true supercar manufacturers never ever ever never never ever make a diesel....it would be blasphemy

Maserati might just do one though Chris! http://www.whatcar.co.uk/news-article.aspx?NA=219243

[HDi fun]

Ferrari's cheapest option would be to take a Punto or Panda or something else from the Fiat stable with the 1.9 JTDm engine. Cosmetic makeover and stiff suspension. Stick a Ferarri badge on it and then go and taunt the eco-tossers in Brussels!

[chrisjlf]

stop it wayne,thats cruel and unusual lol,just dosnt sound right!!! i have a maserati...its a diesel!!! just dosn t go lol

[waynne]

@ Chris.

[HDi fun]

A supercar could work perfectly well as a diesel. But can you imagine changing up at 3500rpm in a supercar. Not quite right really

[chrisjlf]

it will only need 12 gears lol

[pgarner]

use a 18 speed from a wagon, itll be fun watching some folk trying to work the high and low speeds

[HDi fun]

If you remember the open stainless steel gate that Ferrari models had during the 70s and 80s just imagine how in might look now, with a diesel engine.

You'd have to amputate the drivers left knee to accomodate the shift lever's width of travel.

Slightly more seriously, it may not need quite so many gears as a 5 litre diesel with a bank of turbos will probably be pulling from 400rpm anyway, which might help a bit.

But you'd have to change the rev counter numbers so you at least thought you were changing up a 8800rpm instead of the 3600-4000 that diesel would require.

One benefit of fitting a Ferrari with a diesel is that the engine's weight would not interfere with the balance and handling because it would be mounted amidships.

[charger69]

if ferrari makes a diesel, they should give up on the court against that guy that made a 360 modena as a stretch car.

[edk]

Originally Posted by RobBentley

As good as Diesel gets, nothing beats the noise of a 8-12 cylinder petrol.

Well said. I'm a diesel head, but a derv Ferrari wouldnt be the same.

[HDi fun]

Originally Posted by edk

Well said. I'm a diesel head, but a derv Ferrari wouldnt be the same.

That's exactly my point. The question was thus:

"Will there ever be a diesel Ferrari?", NOT, as some are taking it: "What do you think of the idea of a diesel FErrari?"

So thankyou edk!

[edk]

I think for that reason there won't be, because I can see Ferrari wanting to keep it's heritage, even though diesels are being made stonking quick these days! (Audi R8 diesel for example )

[HDi fun]

Originally Posted by edk

I think for that reason there won't be, because I can see Ferrari wanting to keep it's heritage, even though diesels are being made stonking quick these days! (Audi R8 diesel for example )

If there is one then it will be there simply to comply with across the model range CO2 emissions legislation.

But, who cares?

Even if global warming is a tangible issue (I think it isn't) then for the 50 or so Ferrari cars sold each year, each of which will cover little more than 1000 miles per annum then it's not really contributing much at all in terms of emissions.

Ferrari is owned by Fiat. If I was in charge of Ferrari I'd rebadge a JTD Stilo as a Ferrari, tweak the suspension so that it's very uncomfortable, remove the sound deadening panels so it sounds horrid and loud, ramp up the boost and fuelling electronically, over size the cooling system and then flog 'em as £25k Ferrari diesels.

Thus complying with the silly prescriptive laws.

Ferrari will be forced to do a diesel model, one way or another.

[pgarner]

ether that or an electric one

[HDi fun]

Electric Ferrari. That'll be something. 0-60 in 2 seconds and about 5 miles driving range!!!

[HDi fun]

Electric Ferrari. That'll be something. 0-60 in 2 seconds and about 5 miles driving range!!!

It would be better for Ferrari to do s diesel model of their own free will rather than as a result of point legislation.

Perhaps then some of the diesel haters would take note.

[pgarner]

thats the point i cant see ferriai doing a diesel as if the legisation theyre trying to get in the average CO2 under something like 150g/km (cant remember off the top of my head). even then the 1.9 JTD this would proberly still make then over this.
come on how many ferrari fans are going to buy a 1.9 diesel version. whereas a nice electric version or maybe a electric / hybrid version would sell more

[turbonutter69]

Originally Posted by HDi fun

If there is one then it will be there simply to comply with across the model range CO2 emissions legislation.

But, who cares?

Even if global warming is a tangible issue (I think it isn't) then for the 50 or so Ferrari cars sold each year, each of which will cover little more than 1000 miles per annum then it's not really contributing much at all in terms of emissions.

Ferrari is owned by Fiat. If I was in charge of Ferrari I'd rebadge a JTD Stilo as a Ferrari, tweak the suspension so that it's very uncomfortable, remove the sound deadening panels so it sounds horrid and loud, ramp up the boost and fuelling electronically, over size the cooling system and then flog 'em as £25k Ferrari diesels.

Thus complying with the silly prescriptive laws.

Ferrari will be forced to do a diesel model, one way or another.

Ferrari have already anounced that to comply with Co2 regulation they will start to make smaller capacity engines with the use of Torbochargers. They blatantly refused to ever make a diesel.... I will be very suprised if they change their minds.

[HDi fun]

I was thinking of something around 5 litres as a diesel with two pairs of turbochargers.