Viewing: What's the appeal of diesel?

***T9 man*** · 23-02-2011, 04:47 PM

I have never driven a diesel of any description

Will have to seek a suitable one out for a little test drive and see what the fuss is all about

***HDi fun*** · 23-02-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fat Fatty

you won't have done from inside them, it's the people outside who have to put up with it.

Perhaps I should have got someone to drive it past me under hard acceleration then I'd have heard this for myself. Inside all that was really audible was turbo hiss.

**pgarner** · 25-02-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fat Fatty

you won't have done from inside them, it's the people outside who have to put up with it.

i dont see the problem, im in the car im not hearing the rumbling and seeing the black smoke

**geraint13** · 26-02-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pgarner

i dont see the problem, im in the car im not hearing the rumbling and seeing the black smoke

that is the attitude too have lol. im ok, everyone else can shove it lol. its the only way to be nowadays as everyone else is out for themselves and will run you over trying to get it.

***HDi fun*** · 26-02-2011, 12:05 PM

DPF anybody?

**geraint13** · 26-02-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HDi fun

DPF anybody?

whats DPF then paul ?

***HDi fun*** · 26-02-2011, 12:09 PM

Diesel Particle Filter. My P406 had one of these and it was completely smoke free.

**geraint13** · 26-02-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HDi fun

Diesel Particle Filter. My P406 had one of these and it was completely smoke free.

is that newer thing on more modern diesels or can any diesel have them ?
if so how do i get one or fit it into my system ?

***HDi fun*** · 26-02-2011, 12:14 PM

My car was a 2001/2002 model and the DPF was standard on the 2.2 HDi only. It was actually the first car to be thus equipped. You can't easily retrofit a DPF system.

Strangely the earlier DPFs like mine were more reliable than the later ones. They used a fuel borne catalyst and employed active regeneration to avoid blocking

**pgarner** · 26-02-2011, 12:15 PM

all diesels from 2004 (? need to double check that) need to have one, they dont make them completely smoke free but trap alot of it. think a cat for the smoke.

if youve not got one fitted dont bother like cats they remove performance and can give more trouble than they are worth

**geraint13** · 26-02-2011, 12:17 PM

cheers lads, wont bother looking for one then lol !!!!

**Yugguy** · 26-02-2011, 03:45 PM

I've always been and advocate of powerful diesels and still am but I have to say I heard one in a new audi tt the other day and it just seemed wrong. That said the vag tinny 4pot 1.8 petrol never sounded that good either. V6 ftw.

**jarrus** · 26-02-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HDi fun

DPF anybody?

No thank you.....

There are far better ways of reducing exhaust particulates

***HDi fun*** · 26-02-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jarrus

No thank you.....

There are far better ways of reducing exhaust particulates

Soot is good. In the unlikely and unfortunate situation that you cannot shake off the car behind at least you can smoke 'em out

***T9 man*** · 26-02-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HDi fun

Soot is good. In the unlikely and unfortunate situation that you cannot shake off the car behind at least you can smoke 'em out

Sounds like a scene from a James Bond Movie

***HDi fun*** · 26-02-2011, 05:28 PM

Apparently mixing two stroke oil with diesel fuel is a good way to reduce sooty exhaust dirt.

**jarrus** · 26-02-2011, 08:00 PM

Really? I know mixing 2 stroke can keep the pump lubricated but I didnt know it would do that as well

***HDi fun*** · 26-02-2011, 08:06 PM

I tried it in the Seat with its ancient 1.9D VW engine. Ratio about 1:100 - ie 1/2 litre of two stroke to a tank of diesel and it did completely eradicate the little bit of smoke it put out when thrashed.

Thrashing it wasn't difficult, however - an engine with about 70-75bhp is hardly effortless and needed to be driven with 'intent' to get it to offer something resembling half reasonable day to day performance.

**MasterAuron** · 26-02-2011, 08:55 PM

Gotta be honest now the more I drive the FRS the more I hate the derv Fiesta!

***HDi fun*** · 26-02-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterAuron

Gotta be honest now the more I drive the FRS the more I hate the derv Fiesta!

Totally understandable. I still like derv as a fuel for heavyweight road cars as it suits my driving style and neither of us can dispute the in gear muscle they offer.

Yet I have chosen to revert to petrol, for now, on the grounds of simplicity and relatively cheap servicing costs.

**jarrus** · 27-02-2011, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterAuron

Gotta be honest now the more I drive the FRS the more I hate the derv Fiesta!

Again understandable, but they are in different leagues in terms of there performance and target market, it's nothing to do with the fact it's a diesel.