What RWD diesels are there

[waynne]

Does anyone know of any Rear Wheel Drive diesels? I have a feeling some of the jags might be but I'm not sure?

I'm pretty sure there aren't many RWD diesels out there and there will probably be more AWD versions about.

Do you think there should be more RWD deisels? With all that Torque on offer it makes sense to my mind.

[HDi fun]

All Jaguars are RWD with the exception of the X type, which is FWD. With the further exception that some X types use four wheel drive.

All BMWs and MBs are rear wheel drive. No others spring to mind at present.

Look at older cars, then we can take the Volvo 700 and 900 series into account. Ford offered a truly repulsive Sierra 2.3 Diesel and a, marginally less sickening, Granada 2.5.

Overseas you'll find Fiat 131s and 132s with diesel engines as far back as the mid 1970s.

Peugeot's 504 was offered with diesel engines for the domestic market.

I think that RWD is still generally superior to FWD for driving, traction and smoothness but we must bear in mind that FWD does off better interior space.

And FWD is still improving. Remember the savage torque steer the Montego Turbo exhibited with just 150bhp. Ford is now delivering over 300bhp in the FWD Focus RS.

[MasterAuron]

Bimmas? Mates just bought a deisel Compact 3-series and that's RWD, think most beemers are aren't they?

[pgarner]

think all BM are apart from the X series and Mnis

[turbonutter69]

Is the Volvo T5 rear wheel?

[claymore]

Originally Posted by turbonutter69

Is the Volvo T5 rear wheel?

Front wheel drive

[turbonutter69]

Originally Posted by claymore

Front wheel drive

Ok never had an interest in them so just assumed with the size of em they'd be rear. Never liked Volvo's anyway.

[turbonutter69]

Mercedes are rear as well aren't they?

[HDi fun]

Got the Mercs and Beemers already. The Volvo T5 is FWD, as is the D5 and D6.

Diesel cars are much nicer with RWD as the amount of torque stuffed through the front is just too much to steer the thing properly under hard acceleration. Then factor in the nose heaviness of the diesel engines themselves and you've got a recipe for ploughing understeer. It's surprising that they work as well as they do to be honest.

[Loz]

Chrysler 300CRD

[claymore]

Originally Posted by turbonutter69

Ok never had an interest in them so just assumed with the size of em they'd be rear. Never liked Volvo's anyway.

Don't knock them until you'v driven one.

[turbonutter69]

Originally Posted by claymore

Don't knock them until you'v driven one.

Where did that come from? Who said I'd never driven one?

[claymore]

Originally Posted by turbonutter69

Where did that come from? Who said I'd never driven one?

just assumed as you didn't realise it was fwd, that you hadn't driven one,

[turbonutter69]

Originally Posted by claymore

just assumed as you didn't realise it was fwd, that you hadn't driven one,

I have drove the T5 a short distance but i've never really liked Volvo anyway so it was more of a chore than an experience. It was Auto too which made it even more boring.

[HDi fun]

Originally Posted by Loz

Chrysler 300CRD

Yep, missed that one! It uses the Merc 320CDi straight six unit.

[Loz]

Ford Sierra, Granada? Also the Vauxhall's Carlton & Omega possibly I'm not sure*.






*Read, I'm too tired & bone idle to go on to google to find out!

[turbonutter69]

Loz you should know the Carlton is rear. Didn't you see Pikeymotorsports "Trampdrift Carlton Project"?

[Loz]

Yes, but did they do a derv one?

[turbonutter69]

Originally Posted by Loz

Yes, but did they do a derv one?

Well I dunno about that one?

[HDi fun]

They did a Carlton with a diesel - it was a stodgy 2.3 bone.

Omega, thanks - well spotted. They, too are RWD. The earlier 2.5 BMW sourced inline 6 was better than the in-house 2.2 DTi which followed.

There was never a great diesel Omega but as a car they're massively under-rated in my opinion.

The 24 valve 3.2 V6 petrol is sublime and bullet proof.

[BVR]

Alfa Romeo 75 2.0 TD (90 hp, crap VM engine)
Alfa Romeo 75 2.4 TD(114 hp, crap VM engine)
Alfa Romeo 90 2.4 TD(114 hp, crap VM engine)
BMW 324 d E30 (90 hp, underpowered)
BMW 324 td E30 (112 hp turbo)
BMW 524td E28 (112 hp turbo)
BMW 325 td E36 (115 hp turbo)
BMW 325 tds E36 (145 hp turbo intercooler)
BMW 524 td E34 (112 hp turbo)
BMW 525 td E34 (115 hp turbo)
BMW 525 tds E34 (145 hp turbo intercooler)
Fiat Argenta 2.4td (114 hp, crap VM engine?)
Ford Sierra 2.3d (68 hp ??)
Ford Sierra 1.8 td (90 hp)
Ford Granada 2.5d (70 hp)
Ford Scorpio 2.5td (90 hp)
Ford Scorpio 2.5td (115 hp)
Mercedes w201 190 2.0d
Mercedes w201 190 2.5d
Mercedes w201 190 2.5 td
Mercedes w124 2.0d
Mercedes w124 2.5d
Mercedes w124 2.5 td
Mercedes w124 3.0 d
Mercedes w124 3.0 td
Mercedes w124 3.0 d 24v
Nissan Vanette 2.0d
Nissan Vanette 2.3d
Nissan Serena 2.0d
Opel Rekord 2.3d
Opel Rekord 2.3 td
Opel Omega 2.3td
Opel Omega 2.3td intercooler
Opel Omega 2.5 td
Opel Omega 2.5 tds
Opel Omega 2.2 dti
Peugeot 505 2.3d
Peugeot 505 2.3 td
Peugeot 505 2.5 td
Peugeot 604 2.3 td
Rover SD1 2.4 td
Talbot tagora TD
Volvo 340 1.7 td
Volvo 244 2.5d
Volvo 740 2.5 td

[Yugguy]

Originally Posted by HDi fun

They did a Carlton with a diesel - it was a stodgy 2.3 bone.

Omega, thanks - well spotted. They, too are RWD. The earlier 2.5 BMW sourced inline 6 was better than the in-house 2.2 DTi which followed.

There was never a great diesel Omega but as a car they're massively under-rated in my opinion.

The 24 valve 3.2 V6 petrol is sublime and bullet proof.

I believe that the BMW sourced 2.5 diesel was detuned before it went in GM cars but it can be re-tuned back up again.

[HDi fun]

That seems to ring a bell. There were 2 versions of it as well - the difference being the intercooler in the TDS which was absent from the TD model.

[waynne]

Wow - That's a pretty comprehensive list there BVR. I'm Glad you've joined.

[Loz]

I won't be playing top trumps with you any time soon BVR!
That's a pretty comprehensive list.