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27-11-2009, 07:28 AM
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| | Administrator Torque King Car: A3 1.8T Sport
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| Best diesel engines to remap I thought I would do an article with a list of the best deisel engines to remap with power gains, cost and performance stats.
What are your thoughts on this?
VAG 1.9PD (150bhp) > Remaps to around 190bhp (anyone know the Torque Figures)
We should probably have the Pug 2.2 and BMW diesel engine but IMO the longer the list the better.
So which diesel engines with remaps give the best bang per buck?
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27-11-2009, 09:06 AM
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| | Super Moderator Torque King Car: VW Bora (184.6bhp)
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap 1.9 ARL engine is something like 300 - 320ftlb depending on map
Audi (doesnt seem avalible through the rest of the vag range) 3.0 TDI - around 270bhp and over 400ftlb
BMW 3.0 single turbo diesel gives similar figs
not sure on the twin turbo
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27-11-2009, 09:21 AM
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| | Moderator Torque King Car: E39
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap The 3.0 twin turbo BMW unit (335d and 535d) can be taken to 345bhp and 511lbft (source: Celtic Tuning).
(I wish BMW would revert to their standard and use the last two digits to denote engine size. It's confusing because the 525d 530d and 535d are all straight 6, 24 valve 3.0 litre diesels. A 520i is actually 2.2, 523i is a 2. 5 etc etc.)
VAG PD150 goes to over 300lbft |
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28-11-2009, 10:49 PM
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| | Super Moderator Torque King Car: VW Bora (184.6bhp)
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap found some figures that are RR confirmed for the 1.9 VAG engines mix of 130 and 150 engines.
250bhp and 400ftlb
248 and 377
230 and 344
from a 130
247 and 355
from a 150
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29-11-2009, 10:14 AM
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| | Loyal Member Road burner Car: Octavia vRS LE
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap VAG 2.0TDi (PD and CR) 167hp > 211hp; 258lb-ft > 351lb-ft
That's a straight remap from Celtic, they can take the PD to 300hp with some more indepth work. |
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29-11-2009, 12:42 PM
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| | Moderator Torque King Car: E39
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap Quote:
Originally Posted by WLBjork VAG 2.0TDi (PD and CR) 167hp > 211hp; 258lb-ft > 351lb-ft
That's a straight remap from Celtic, they can take the PD to 300hp with some more indepth work. | Graham told me about the 300bhp project back in April 2006. |
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30-11-2009, 08:33 AM
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| | Loyal Member Road burner Car: Octavia vRS LE
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap I haven't gone into that, I have a CR
I suspect it's doable (I note with intrest how the figures before and after are identical). |
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30-11-2009, 08:16 PM
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| | Super Moderator Torque King Car: VW Bora (184.6bhp)
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap yeah it was done on an A3. was running with propane, nitrous and possibly hybrid turbo
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30-11-2009, 09:23 PM
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| | Moderator Torque King Car: E39
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap Celtic's silly 300bhp 1.9 definitely used a hybrid turbo with cut back vanes. I think there were also some substantial changes to the cooling system and oil cooling arrangements. |
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01-12-2009, 10:42 AM
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| | Super Moderator Torque King Car: VW Bora (184.6bhp)
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap that was on the 1.9 thought it was them that had played with the 2.0.
not sure if oil cooling is really required most od the 1.9s i put above dont seem to have oil coolers and those who do only see the valves are open when its on a track
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18-12-2009, 10:00 AM
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| | Member Tuner Car: mondeo tdci
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap Quote:
Originally Posted by waynne
VAG 1.9PD (150bhp) > Remaps to around 190bhp (anyone know the Torque Figures) |
What models house this engine? |
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18-12-2009, 11:21 AM
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| | Moderator Torque King Car: E39
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap Golf GT TDi PD 150 (that's a bit of a gobfull)
The only problem with the 4 cylinder PD engines is that they're a bit coarse compared to the French offerings. |
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18-12-2009, 11:29 AM
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| | Super Moderator Torque King Car: VW Bora (184.6bhp)
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap vag 1.9 tdi ARL engine was in the
golf
bora
and seat leon as a 160bhp varient
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05-01-2010, 06:59 PM
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| | Junior Member Wrench Pro Car: 307 HDi 110
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap My Astra H 1.9 16v CDTi (Fiat JTD engine) 150 standard. With a DTUK CRD2 box made 206bhp. Quick was an understatement!!! |
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05-01-2010, 08:41 PM
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| | Member Tuner Car: mondeo tdci
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| Re: Best diesel engines to remap thanks for responses.
very interesting with regards to DTUK tuning box - I take it that it was a box and not an ecu remap.
that seems like quite a leap for a tuning box - 56bhp. Was this a quoted fiqure or obtained from a rolling road?
Do you have a torque increase figure |
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