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Old 09-02-2012, 01:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 307 HDI 110 low boost level

Hi guys I have a 2002 307 2 litre 110 hdi . I have had a few problems with the car since i bought it which led me to remove the dpf and have it removed from the ecu. After I did that I had turbo problems which i recently resolved but soldering a broken wire to the turbo electrovalve. Now the car has no antipollution fault and is no longer in limp mode but I still feel it is underpowered.

What can I check now that could be lowering the boost?
Or will the car just need time to clear out with driving?
I was considering a remap but want to wait until I know the car is running 100%. Any suggestions?
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Agreed. Don't remap until you have the engine operating properly.

You could try disconnecting the battery for an hour or so to clear the ECU's short term learning data.
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

Do you think that would help considering i have no fault on peugeot planet?
I can imagine it could be a loost connection or a hose clip or something?
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Old 09-02-2012, 05:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It's worth a go because it's free. If it was an electrical connection you'd have a Anti-pollution fault up.

A loose hose would probably whistle loudly but it's not out of the question.
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Old 09-02-2012, 06:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

yea il try disconnecting the battery. The car is very reeky when revved so im guessing is very blocked as the turbo has not worked due to the car being in limp mode for a long time
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Does it smoke under full load?
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Old 09-02-2012, 06:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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sorry what do you mean full load?
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

Low revs (1000-2000) and full throttle. Or I also believe it's your peak torque.
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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it might smoke a wee bit at low revs but it'll smoke heavily between 3000-5000 revs. i guessed this was because limp mode restricted this for so long?
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It might be a bit furred up yes.
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

Have you checked your air filter? If this is clogged it will restrict the air flow possibly causing it to smoke?
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air filter literally just changed. oil filter and oil to follow
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

Not sure what else to suggest. Give it a good run to really increase the engine and exhaust temperatures and see if it clears out
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

it drives very average for what it is. The car boosts in lower gear but the in 3rd to 5th there isnt much response
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

Clearly it's not under-fuelling given the fact it smokes. Have you been over things such as the mass air flow sensor?
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

no i havent checked it. what does it do and where is it located?
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

after the air filter and before the turbo (between them). you should see a plug somewhere in the hose . thats the maf.
other thing i can think is the egr valve dirty and not closing properly?
can you check if boosting levels are normal on the 3rd to 5th gears?
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

could you clean the sensor or would it just need replaced? would a faulty sensor not throw up a fault code on pp2000 (diag)? and about the egr - the car does idle a bit rough at the start which i think is a symptom of a dirty egr or am i wrong?
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Could be something. get it cleaned then blanked off to stop it happening again. It should improve power too, because it will stop exhaust gas being recirculated, which is only good for reducing emissions
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

some say the maf can be cleaned but the results are next to no good.
a faulty sensor should send a fault , but there is a chance of not doing it yet...
can the diagnostic tool check the egr cycle on your car? rough idle is one symptom yes.
you can either blanke the egr as Jakeymd said or clean it.
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

I have been considering blanking it anyway when i get the remap done but would i need to check and clean it first?
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

if blanking no need for cleanings...
but you still need to be shure whats wrong with the engine.
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Default Re: 307 HDI 110 low boost level

well my gut instinct would tell me the lack of boost would be coming from a pipe split or clip, or something like the sensor messing up. The turbo solenoid valve could be blocked? I fixed the cable to this valve which clearly wasnt functioning until I soldered the connection to it, so could it be blocked up?
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wich year is your car? the turbo is a vnt ?
best option as i said is to check the turbo pressure with the diag. tool if this is possible.
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well my gut instinct would tell me the lack of boost would be coming from a pipe split or clip, or something like the sensor messing up. The turbo solenoid valve could be blocked? I fixed the cable to this valve which clearly wasnt functioning until I soldered the connection to it, so could it be blocked up?
When are you able to check if the turbo solenoid valve is blocked?
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