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**addaboss** · 21-09-2008, 01:57 PM

i recently bought a sony xplode 52x4 head unit and also i bought a set of pioneer 130 watt door speakers it sounds ok but has the head unit got the power to run another set of door speakers ?? can you help ?? will i have to buy an amp? let us know cheerz.

**pgarner** · 21-09-2008, 02:12 PM

yes its a 4 channel internal amp. 2 for the front and 2 for the rear.
your head unit can only supply a max of 52w on each channel so theres no chance of over running the speakers. however if you turn up the volume you will start to get clipping where the internal amp cant provide enough power,
for most applications you wont need an external amp unless your wanting to run some decent 6x9s or a sub.

**steve09** · 21-09-2008, 06:13 PM

I agree with pgarner, if you have some speakers/subs other than small, standard car ones you will need to get an amp to power them for the head unit just cannot give the kind of power for them to run properly.

**addaboss** · 23-09-2008, 07:30 PM

but the 1 set of 130 watts will work ok yeh? bloody hope so ive them runin now

**addaboss** · 23-09-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by addaboss

but the 1 set of 130 watts will work ok yeh? bloody hope so ive them runin now

can u sugest a reasonably good amp 2 power a set of 6x9's and maybe a sub in the future is it also better 2 connect the door speakers staight 2 the amp or is the head sufficent? because i live in spain theres alot smaller range 2 choose from bloody spains crap 4 stuuf like that
cheerz

**steve09** · 23-09-2008, 10:17 PM

what sort of money are you thinking of spending, would give a good range then, also what power are you needing?

4 channel 500 watt??

2 channel 250 watt
or 4 channel 250??

**DETHTATS** · 24-09-2008, 05:39 AM

Just like everything else you buy, quality = a pretty price. A good reliable amp will be expensive but if you just want a few extra watts then go with a cheap one. When you start building them for quality, you are going to have to pay a bit more for them.

**pgarner** · 24-09-2008, 09:56 AM

IF your going to be going very loud then connect the door speakers to the Amp, your head unit gives enough for main driving.
i like my alpine amps, i paid £100 (E150)for a 2 channel vibe to run my 4 6x9 and it could handle them not bad (started to clip at the top end when i was setting them up as the amp wasnt powerful enough)

**steve09** · 24-09-2008, 09:58 AM

um... was that meant pgarner??

something along the lines of

click.......damn not worked.....click click... hmmm... ahh there we go

**DETHTATS** · 24-09-2008, 10:28 AM

he was just making sure he got his point across!

**pgarner** · 24-09-2008, 10:38 AM

Ok thought i had duplicate the post didnt relise that i had done it 3 times
opps

**steve09** · 24-09-2008, 10:49 AM

lol.... happerns to us all... an me bout 5 mins ago with pm's lol...

dunno how many it sent all i know is that its alot

**pgarner** · 24-09-2008, 11:25 AM

7 i think it was steve all the exact same

**adz253** · 25-09-2008, 04:16 PM

my set up so far is.......head unit to a cross-over in each front door which powers a mid (door speaker) and a tweater in each door. the same again in there rear doors, then i have my alpine 3000 watt amp in the boot once again to a cross over, with 2 more 6 x 9's and 2 1500 watt s type subs...and in an estate it sounds super

**addaboss** · 25-09-2008, 07:25 PM

well i probably want a nice set of 6x9 and a sub bt im not lookin 2 buy the best but i still want quality you know. I'll probable spend about lol well not really sure wot could i get 4 about 200 to 300 pound? quite a nice setup no? also i have a bit of a banger of a car lol and im quite sure all the panels and that are gona vibrate like mad can u suggest anything?(lol buy a new car) im in the process of making my astra look like a GSI cos im poor an cant afford a real one lol cheerz

**pgarner** · 26-09-2008, 11:20 AM

Dynamat is your friend.
300 will get you a decent set of 6x9s and and amp - dont bother with the sub anless your wanting lot of bass

**addaboss** · 28-09-2008, 11:17 AM

Dynamat? that is a make no? how cum people dont put big-ass P.A equipment in cars? is it purely because P.A works off 240 volts and cars are only 12 volts? coz that would be bloody loud! well i'll av2 look in2 sum shops bt theres very little 2 choose from.

**pgarner** · 28-09-2008, 03:57 PM

dynamat is a make - but not of speakers, its a sound deadaning material (stops rattleing )
you can run PA speakers in your car and connect them up to an car amp but they wont sound to great.

**addaboss** · 30-09-2008, 07:24 PM

again i doubt i will be able 2 buy the dynamite stuff ill have a good look round lol ide have to put a hell of a car amp to power my P.A speakers they are peavy black widow hi/sys about 700 watts.
well now i just got to save up sum cash lol
cheerz 4 all ya advice!

**tonkatoy** · 02-10-2008, 09:24 PM

for best performance an amp is neeeded.

**DETHTATS** · 03-10-2008, 03:58 AM

They make amps that will push well above 700 watts, but they can get a little expensive for the better quality ones!

**pgarner** · 03-10-2008, 09:36 AM

And when your getting to that sort of Power your PA speakers will sound pretty pants if there the normal paper cones

**DETHTATS** · 03-10-2008, 09:53 AM

This is very true! Forgot most PA are made of paper. I havent had much dealings with PA speakers, sorry! Had my fair share of car subs, but none than big! I guess the biggest I have ever seen in person was a 32 inch. But it was in a shop under glass and not hooked up! Mostly all I have dealt with is up to 12's and 15's. Love my bass!!!

***HDi fun*** · 03-10-2008, 05:12 PM

Peavey Black Widows are stunning drivers. PA cabs usually use paper cones because they're light and therefore efficient.

And they will stand a true 700 watts RMS across the whole useable bandwidth (up to about 2kHz) all night.

Not many car amplifiers will ever deliver 700 watts in that way.

**addaboss** · 05-10-2008, 05:46 PM

ah also i try to install my pioneers in the back where there are already standard crappy speakers i took them out wired up the new one's an they just crunched and distorted at very low volume and so i tryed them in the front and they sounded well good so what could that be loose speaker cables? the speaker conectors are in good condition maybe it could be the conectors at the back of the head unit? hopefully all it needs is some new speaker cable.